Church of England - Henry VII

[spaced]

Did Henry VIII bring create the Church Of England, or was CoE already around and he just became a leader of it, therefore allowing him power over the pope??

How did CoE overpower Rome???

[Octavius]

The Church of England has its origins sometime in the late 6th century in the Anglo-Saxon Kingdom of Kent, and the mission of Saint Augustine (the first Archbishop of Canterbury), although it probably existed in some form during Roman occupation.

Problems between the Pope and many monarchs of medieval Europe always caused tension, particularly over civil judicial authority over clerics, taxes and the wealth of the Church, and appointments of bishops.

Henry VII had a schism with Rome, when Pope Clement VII refused, over a period of years (1527-1531), to annul Henry's marriage to Catherine of Aragon, not purely as a matter of principle, but also because the Pope lived in fear of Catherine's nephew, Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor, as a result of events in the Italian Wars.

The church in England recognised Henry VIII as supreme head of the Church of England on February 11, 1531. In 1532 he still continued to attempt to seek a compromise with the Pope. Henry was ex-communicated in 1533. Thus came the Act of Submission, Act of Supremacy and Dissolution (1536-1540).

The rest, as they say, is history.

[Count_Emmup]

Henry VII had a schism with Rome, when Pope Clement VII refused, over a period of years (1527-1531), to annul Henry's marriage to Catherine of Aragon.

HenryVIII

[Count_Emmup]

Henry VII had a schism with Rome, when Pope Clement VII refused, over a period of years (1527-1531), to annul Henry's marriage to Catherine of Aragon.

HenryVIII.

[Count_Emmup]

Sorry didn't mean to submit it twice. I know it was only a typo BTW - but didn't want Spaced to submit it in an exam!

[spaced]

im 31, havent had an exam since school lol ;-)

Just interested to find out more, since watching The Tudors

[Octavius]

You realise that �The Tudors� is so full of holes (factually and historically inept ones) that the scriptwriters probably even impart that the War of the Roses was won by the US, i order to to satisfy a wider viewing audience.

One thing it appears to have done thouh is waggle your thirsty ears for some auditory knowledge, which can only be good.

[vehelpfulguy]

Just to echo what Octavius says, be careful of believing ANYTHING in The Tudors TV series.

The have invented characters and events, merged two characters into one, moved the dates of events so they look like they happened at the same time but were actually years apart.

For example Henry had TWO sisters, Mary and Margaret, but the sinlge character "Princess Margaret" in the series is a merging of both sisters, and she does things that both sisters did.

Also Henry's illigitimate son from Betty Blount did not die as a child but was 17 when he died.

Loads of other things are "made up".

It is really just a soap opera that happens to be set in medieval times.

Would not be surprised if Henry wakes up in the shower at the end and finds it was all a dream like they did in Dallas.

Details of the historical innacuracy here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tudors

[jake-the-peg]

just as an aside I wouldn't really call the Tudor period medieval.

I think common dates for the end of the medieval period would be
1453 - fall of Constantinople
1485 - Battle of Bosworth
1492 - Columbus discovery of America

I guess you might cite 1517 - Luther's theses if you really want to push it

[123everton]

I don't pretend to be as well informed as the answers of those above (enjoyed reading the though) but I tend to agree with Jake that Martin Luther was the founder of the Protestant Church. The C of E that followed later would not have caught on with the people unless it had a new idea that was appealing. I feel it had alot more than the King wanting a divorce.
I think (maybe I'm wrong) that 1 of the reasons Protestation caught on was because people were faced with 2 choices, a corrupt Vatican or a corrupt monarchy. They chose the latter to save on coach fare. Tongue in cheek.

[Octavius]

Luther may have been the catalyst that created the 'movement' towards Protestant Reformation throughout much of Europe in the 16th C, but as I have said the Church of England existed as a church long before that, as did the Avignon Papacy and the Great Schism (in medieval times) and John Wycliffe (The Lollards).

In fact, Wycliffe was the 'Morning Star' of the Reformation back in the 14th C.

[spaced]

thanks to all! I was aware that The Tudors did have some "innacuracies", but i am just interested in "i love to shag as many females as poss" henry VIII

cheers guys!