Creation, bible theory?

[styley]

As far as I am aware, according to the bible, God created earth in seven days. However, does the bible mention anything about the creation of everything else in the universe, and who was responsible? Also please look at this link to see were we fit in the scheme of things. How long did these take to make? http://www.techdo.com/images/largest-know-star .htm

[bimbo123456]

You could always try reading the first chapter of Genesis! It is quite specific about what (it says) was created when:
Introit: "In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and the earth, the earth hath existed waste and void, and darkness [is] on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering on the face of the waters, and God saith, Let light be!"[2]
First day: God creates light ("Let Light be!") - the first divine command. The light is divided from the darkness, and "day" and "night" are named.
Second day: God creates a firmament ("Let a firmament be...!") - the second command - to divide the waters above from the waters below. The firmament is named "heavens".
Third day: God commands the waters to be gathered together in one place, and dry land to appear (the third command). "Earth" and "sea" are named. God commands the earth to bring forth grass, plants, and fruit-bearing trees (the fourth command).
Fourth day: God creates lights in the firmament (the fifth command) to separate light from darkness and to mark days, seasons and years. Two great lights are made (most likely the Sun and Moon, but not named), and the stars.
Fifth day: God commands the sea to "teem with living creatures", and birds to fly across the heavens (sixth command); He creates birds and sea creatures, and commands them to be fruitful and multiply.
Sixth day: God commands the land to bring forth living creatures (seventh command); He makes wild beasts, livestock and reptiles. He then creates Man and Woman in His "image" and "likeness" (eighth command). They are told to "be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it." Humans and animals are given plants to eat. The totality of creation is described by God as "very good."
Seventh day: God, having completed the heavens and the earth, rests from His work, and blesses and sanctifies the seventh day.

[Some people believe this is literally

[Theland]

The Bible says that God created everything. If that seems amazing after looking at the link, that is because it is, well, amazing. An amazing God.

[styley]

Theland, there is a theory that the universe is still expanding at this very moment, even while we are discussing this. Would you contend that God is actually creating all that is filling this expanse. If that is the case it could be the reason why he answers a very small percentage of prayers, too busy. For example if it took 7 days for earth, how long does it take for those massive planets?

[matt1e]

when did god create the dinosaurs that lived and died on earth millions of years before man? or were the days just longer then?

[Theland]

Believing in God, I am putting forward a cause for the effect of the universe.
If you don't believe in God, you accept the effect, the universe, without any discernable cause. Yes?

[styley]

Sorry Theland, but that sounds a bit like rhetoric to me. I'm not trying to be rude or ignorant here. Answer these two questions if you like, please: 1 - Do you think the universe is still being created, and 2 - If so, is God creating it. The answer to no. 2 is probably a given, of course.

[luna-tic]

I'm sure the comprehension of time meant nothing during the planets evolution and probably still doesn't really.
Humans may scurry about like ants but to ants we could be moving terribly slow to them.
The days of the so-called beginning of earth may have taken seven million years or seven seconds to create if the biblical god story has any truth in it.
We measure by a time that was created by us but the other creatures were on the earth before us.
Nature is their clock.

[Theland]

I think that God completed His creation, but continues to sustain it. The universe expansion is just the nature of what He created.

[keyplus90]

Hello all, I thought I better give you another aspect to consider. You may get some information here.


http://islamic-scholars.blogspot.com/2007/12/c reation-of-universe-in-quran.html

[styley]

Theland, I'm not trying to make this personal, I'm just confused by your response. Are you saying that God created a certain amount of the universe back when he created earth but he's not creating the new bits now?

[Theland]

God created, I believe, an expanding universe as we experience it. The total amount of mass and energy within the universe is finite, but expanding.

[Clanad]

In my opinion what's not being considered in the context of Genesis is that theHebrew word translated as "day" in English is yowm (often seen as yom). The actual translation is variously "...sunrise to sunset; sunset to sunset; a space of time (defined by an associated term); an age; time or period (without any reference to solar days)".
Hence, 'yowm' can (and does in other sections of Scripture) mean extensive, undefined periods of time.
Usually, the criticism of Creationists is their adherence to a literal 24 hour period of time and leads to the disagreement (often heated) between Old Earth Creationists and Young Earth Creationists (who adhere to the 24 hour day description).
One of the foremost Hebrew scholars, Gleason Archer informs "... it is important to observe that none of the six creative days bears a definite article in the Hebrew text; the translations �the first day,� �the second day,� etc., are in error. The Hebrew says, �And the evening took place, and the morning took place, day one� (1:5). Hebrew expresses �the first day� by hayy�m h��āri���n, but this text says simply y�m �ehād (�day one�). Again, in v.8 we read not hayy�m ha��ēn� (�the second day�) but y�m �ēn� (�a second day�). In Hebrew prose of this genre, the definite article was generally used where the noun was intended to be definite; only in poetic style could it be omitted."

In the interest of brevity, suffice it to say there are numerous places in the Old and New Covenants where yom clearly indicates an indefinite time period of more than 24 solar hours.
A close reading of the Genesis account in both Genesis Chapter 1 as well as Chapter 2 reveals little or no conflict with scientific findins, especially as relates to The Big Bang, in my opinion...

[Theland]

styley - I answered you, and answered mibs on the "Laws" thread, but have just come back on here and my posts have disappeared!

[naomi24]

Sorry, this is going off the subject a bit initially, but just to clarify to bimbo, the beginning of Genesis actually says that God created two types of man - one in his image - and one from the dust of the ground specifically created to 'till the ground' - the latter created after the six day deadline. Since it doesn't specify, and Cain's wife was from the Land of Nod (wherever that may have been), I can only assume the bible is referring to the creation of two different 'races' of human beings, rather than two individuals.

Styley. God's creation was not complete by the sixth day. The universe is still developing and is still not 'complete'.

[styley]

I would venture to assume that the second race mentioned there is a slave race, as they were all for slavery back when the rich boys wrote the bible.

[naomi24]

Styley, certainly seems that way.

[styley]

Naomi, do you mean the slave thing or me being a mentallist?

[naomi24]

Styley, Servants or slaves, it seems they were created to do the work.

What do you mean, you're a mentalist?

[styley]

Trying to get answers from the non existent Theland.

[Theland]

styley - My posts disappeared for a while and I couldn't reply either. Seems al O.K. now though.
I am not a physicist, but my understanding is that there is a finite amount of enrgy and matter that is constantly expanding. So in that sense, God is not creating more stuff, but sustains what is already there.
However, this is not really essential knowledge for my understanding of the nature of God.