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Diabetic girl dies as parents pray....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... yer128.xml
What do you think of this story? This kind of thing infuriates me, mindless people and religion have caused this young girls death. How can some people do this, why is their faith more important to them than anything else? I think the parents should be tried the same as a murderer. It's a crime to deny any person access to medical help!! This tragedy could of been prevented and the young girl still with us today if they had sought medical advice! I really don't understand how parents can be so cruel.
(I really have to go out now so I'm not abandoning this thread. I probably won't be on until tomorrow or sunday but would be very interested into what people think of this situation.)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... yer128.xml
What do you think of this story? This kind of thing infuriates me, mindless people and religion have caused this young girls death. How can some people do this, why is their faith more important to them than anything else? I think the parents should be tried the same as a murderer. It's a crime to deny any person access to medical help!! This tragedy could of been prevented and the young girl still with us today if they had sought medical advice! I really don't understand how parents can be so cruel.
(I really have to go out now so I'm not abandoning this thread. I probably won't be on until tomorrow or sunday but would be very interested into what people think of this situation.)
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Sorry I seem to have lost the link, here's the story!
An 11-year-old girl died from diabetes after her parents prayed for her recovery rather than calling for medical assistance.
Madeline Neumann died on Sunday in Wisconsin, from an undiagnosed but treatable ailment.
Dan Vergin, the local police chief, said she had been ill for a month, suffering symptoms such as nausea, vomiting, excessive thirst, loss of appetite and weakness.
"She just got sicker and sicker until she was dead," he said.
Even after her death, her parents, Dale and Leilani Neumann, who did not belong to any organised faith, prayed over her body in the hope that she might be resurrected.
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Mr Vergin said the couple, who run a coffee shop in Wausau, had blamed her death on their lack of faith.
"They have a little Bible study of a few people," said Mr Vergin. "These are not bizarre people."
Police are now preparing a report for prosecutors. However, legal action against the parents may be prevented by a Wisconsin state statute against failing to act to protect children from bodily harm.
The statute contains an exemption for what it refers to as "treatment through prayer". Mrs Neumann, whose husband is a former policeman, said they had never expected her daughter to die. She suffered from diabetic ketoacidosis, which left her with too little insulin.
She said her family believed in the Bible and that healing came from God. But she insisted that they were not "crazy religious people" and had nothing against doctors.
An 11-year-old girl died from diabetes after her parents prayed for her recovery rather than calling for medical assistance.
Madeline Neumann died on Sunday in Wisconsin, from an undiagnosed but treatable ailment.
Dan Vergin, the local police chief, said she had been ill for a month, suffering symptoms such as nausea, vomiting, excessive thirst, loss of appetite and weakness.
"She just got sicker and sicker until she was dead," he said.
Even after her death, her parents, Dale and Leilani Neumann, who did not belong to any organised faith, prayed over her body in the hope that she might be resurrected.
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Mr Vergin said the couple, who run a coffee shop in Wausau, had blamed her death on their lack of faith.
"They have a little Bible study of a few people," said Mr Vergin. "These are not bizarre people."
Police are now preparing a report for prosecutors. However, legal action against the parents may be prevented by a Wisconsin state statute against failing to act to protect children from bodily harm.
The statute contains an exemption for what it refers to as "treatment through prayer". Mrs Neumann, whose husband is a former policeman, said they had never expected her daughter to die. She suffered from diabetic ketoacidosis, which left her with too little insulin.
She said her family believed in the Bible and that healing came from God. But she insisted that they were not "crazy religious people" and had nothing against doctors.
I hear you and I whole heartedly agree with you.
In life there are three things...faith, hope and love. I personally would rather put my faith in Science than in God. I don't hat religion or anything I just don't get how they think God can save a life he ain't saved any yet. I feel alot more safer putting my life in my Doctors hands. I hope the parents are prosecuted without compassion as they obviously had none for their daughter.
In life there are three things...faith, hope and love. I personally would rather put my faith in Science than in God. I don't hat religion or anything I just don't get how they think God can save a life he ain't saved any yet. I feel alot more safer putting my life in my Doctors hands. I hope the parents are prosecuted without compassion as they obviously had none for their daughter.
Its easy to stand on the outside and condemn people for making foolish decisions that result in the death of their children. I am religious and believe that God can heal but when there are natural steps we can take (cos of medical advancement) we should always take those first and then when we run out of options look for a miracle. That's the choice I would have made, but I am not pointing a finger and saying this mother and father should be prosecuted for acting foolishly towards their child. Should the McCanns be prosecuted for making foolish decisions regarding their child? Of course not. Its lack of wisdom that cause people to put their children at risk, and at times, as any parent will admit (privately if not publically) we all do that! These people were looking for a miracle when actually no miracle was required, just common sense. Like the McCanns I bet that if they knew then what they know now they would never make that mistake again.
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I couldn't of said it better myself luna-sea....a person on another site where I asked the same question said "I've got quite a fair proposal; Dangle the parents over a tall cliff by a rope with their hands tied in front of them (so they can pray), then set the rope on fire. If God chooses to miracle their asses to safety, then they get to live".
Sounds fair, doesn't it?
Sounds fair, doesn't it?
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Or drown witches to see if they float...
I don't agree with what they've done but everybody raises their children the way they see fit, upto and including medical care until such a time as they reach the age of majority.
I find it funny (funny peculiar) that in America you can be prosecuted for denying treatment, whilst it's legal to be left to rot because you don't have enough insurance.
I don't agree with what they've done but everybody raises their children the way they see fit, upto and including medical care until such a time as they reach the age of majority.
I find it funny (funny peculiar) that in America you can be prosecuted for denying treatment, whilst it's legal to be left to rot because you don't have enough insurance.
God did'nt kill the people of 911. Men did! It's an old adage but when something bad happens don't ask where was God? Ask where was man?
God did'nt "kill" that child, she could be helped, her parents chose to ignore her needs to serve their own.
On their heads be it.
911, the men at the helm of those planes could've swerved out the way, they chose not to.
Even Chaka's pithy observation bears the same scrutiny, you dangle someone over a bridge, set fire to the rope, and say "let your God save you now!" Should atheists have to kill to prove a point?
When you ignore the suffering of others, when you deny them their humanity, their individuality. Then it is you who is lost...
God did'nt "kill" that child, she could be helped, her parents chose to ignore her needs to serve their own.
On their heads be it.
911, the men at the helm of those planes could've swerved out the way, they chose not to.
Even Chaka's pithy observation bears the same scrutiny, you dangle someone over a bridge, set fire to the rope, and say "let your God save you now!" Should atheists have to kill to prove a point?
When you ignore the suffering of others, when you deny them their humanity, their individuality. Then it is you who is lost...
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