Its been 40 years since the '' Rivers of Blood '' speech.

[Rtaxron]

I know he said it would happen ( RoB ) in 20 years, but do you think the Government at the time, should have listened to Enoch Powell, considering the increase in gun and knife crime we are experiencing now?

[Kromovaracun]

Dear GOD! Not Jedis!

In 20 years, I tell you, we'll be under the dark side. Mass-produced Clone armies will drive our brave troops out of work. TIE fighters will shoot across the sky. We'll be a minority in our own country!

You mark my words.... It'll come true....

[stokemaveric]

but this is happening NOW not in 20 years....immigration should stop now we have reached saturation point lets start looking after our own countrymen and women and stop being an open invitation to all and sundry and the scum of the earth.

[Kromovaracun]

but this is happening NOW not in 20 years....

What is? The Dark Side Jedis taking over?

Or do you mean the muslims 'having the whip hand over the white man'? Because if so I'd have to say that you were off your trolly. Especially considering you've provided no evidence whatsoever to support your claim. Or to convince me that your claim is any more convincing than the nonsense people like Powell have been spouting for donkeys' years....

[ChocolatChip]

From maybe my young and easily manipulated mind, I somewhat agree with Stokemaveric and the idea that Enoch Powell was right with his speech he made 40 years ago. Although not necessary correct about his dates.
He warned people of the consequences of uncontrolled immigration. And from my mind, I think most problems have now stemmed from the mass immigration and this unbothered government. Unemployment, although at a lower compared to the 1980's, nowadays people who desparately want a job with lesser qualifications, simply cannot because they are ALL being over taken by immigrants. The economy is suffering as most of this country's money is not staying in this country, it is being sent abroad to families at home. I've even heard of some people claiming benefits for their children back home!
Divides between populations, as immigrants cannot and do not what to socialise with white british people, they have their own schools, own shops, in some cases even own laws!
Just think, if we went to their country and kicked up such a fuss, do you think they'd go 'Ohh, it's okay, they've had a hard life elsewhere.'
No, they certainly well wouldn't!
This is the problem with this country, to PC for their own good! Can't say this, can't say that, can't do anything for fear of getting a slap on the wrist.
I'm not racist, by any means, in fact, I'm well known in my family for arguing with anyone who says bad things about another religion or race.
Because white men can be as bad as black or asian men.
But if you come to a country, you should either follow their laws and try to fit in or get out.
I also think we need someone John Howard to speech for your average white man and woman, as these days I think their voices have become whispers in the great scream of political Correctness.

[Lonnie]

Apologies krom,
I still think it will happen, Since the last successful invasion, there have always been time, between one mass immigration and the next, for the immigrants to settle and integrate, and, for want of a better phrase, become British.

Thats not happening now, now, there's a continuous mass immigration, and the 'time' element has been taken out.

Unless 'mass' imigration is stopped, I believe that this country will fracture, and riots will spread the length and breadth of this country.

Groups of immigrants not wanting to integrate, not wanting to speak the language, which means that various groups can't, and won't interact with others, which brings another word into the equation, Apartheid which is also happening.

And most of this has been in the last decade.

[anotheoldgit]

Births by British-born mothers down 44,000
Births by all foreign-born mothers up 64,000
Births by mothers born in Eastern Europe up 15,000
Births by mothers born in Indian subcontinent up 11,000
Births by mothers born in Africa up 8,000
Source: ONS/BBC

The mulim birthratre is three times higher than non-Muslims.

Interesting figures for all those that don't believe that the Indigenous population of Britain, will be foreigners in their own country in a few years time.

Incidentally the "Rivers of Blood" passage of Enoch Powell's speech has for years been taken by some, conveniently out of context. This is that passage, from his speech. No mention of our streets or rivers running in blood.

As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood". That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect.

[anotheoldgit]

Link to Enoch's speech.

http://www.answers.com/rivers+of+blood?gwp=11& ver=2.3.0.624&method=3

Link to British birth rates.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7216988.stm

[Rtaxron]

Those figures are SCARY anotheoldgit.

I knew it was bad, but not that BAD!!!!!

[Oneeyedvic]

Those figures are not at all scary.

In 2006, there were just over 669,000 births. Of these 522,000 were born to those of a UK born mother. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBASE/Product. asp?vlnk=14408

So a decrease in the birthrate of 44,000 is not even a 10% drop.

[fagidill]

With out a shadow of doubt , it's loud and crystal clear to me , from the comment's ,Who is from, TRUE blood lineage BRITAIN. By the way Cut me in 2 & I have the union
jack running through me like a stick of rock.


Up the BNP!! they will help solve the problem.

[Oneeyedvic]

What exactly is TRUE blood lineage BRITAIN?

And interesting how you seem to mix Celts, Saxons & Anglos.

[leelapops]

Oh dear, a BNP crackpot.

[Lonnie]

True Lineage of Britain.

I love that phrase,
There isn't one, never has been.

The real problem here, is the continuous mass immigration, it has to stop.

You can't, and shouldn't stop all immigration, but en masse has to be stopped, otherwise the Doom and Gloom that I think will happen, most assuredly will.

[Kromovaracun]

Births by British-born mothers down 44,000
Births by all foreign-born mothers up 64,000
Births by mothers born in Eastern Europe up 15,000
Births by mothers born in Indian subcontinent up 11,000
Births by mothers born in Africa up 8,000


Ignoring for a moment the crackpot assumption you've made that each of these groups are unswervingly Muslim, these figures aren't really scary.

For instance, the 64,000 from foreign-born mothers (which includes all the other stats you've given except for the decline in British births), in terms of population increase translates to less than 0.2%.

Take into account that 2.7% of the population is muslum (so divide 0.2% by 2.7%, and you get about 0.07%)

Your birthrate figures mean 44,000 less births than the previous measurement. Not that the birthrate's going into negatives (even though the birthrate is pretty tiny in the UK).

It'll take quite a while (read: never) for that rate to make any significant dent on the makeup of the UK. And that's even assuming those birthrates stay the same.

Bear in mind my maths is more than a little rusty, but I'm sure I'm not far wrong.