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if i want or need more money the solutions are evident,
work harder and more effectively,
change jobs,
restrict your income to match expenses,
if i could take 12 weeks + holiday a year (paid) i would engage brain and instead of lolling around moaning would use my time profitably,
actually for the level of skills and the application the money isnt too bad.
work harder and more effectively,
change jobs,
restrict your income to match expenses,
if i could take 12 weeks + holiday a year (paid) i would engage brain and instead of lolling around moaning would use my time profitably,
actually for the level of skills and the application the money isnt too bad.
The present Mrs. BM ceased to be a lifelong teacher 6 years ago.
The rather good rate of increase in salary in recent years is more than outstripped by the aggro created by parent choice & expectation / constant Ministerial tinkering / changes in the curriculum / the need to document every damn thing.
It wasn't broke before so it didn't need fixing.
The rather good rate of increase in salary in recent years is more than outstripped by the aggro created by parent choice & expectation / constant Ministerial tinkering / changes in the curriculum / the need to document every damn thing.
It wasn't broke before so it didn't need fixing.
As I recall they're being asked to take 6 years of below inflation increase.
It's not so easy for a teacher to "work harder, more effectively or change job" in order to get more cash is it?
I know what I'd do - I'd leave - and I think most of you would too
Then we'll have a bunch of stories in about 6 months about failing schools and we'll have a big round of tut tutting
How much do you think teachers actually should be paid then - Say a secondry school science teacher for example?
It's not so easy for a teacher to "work harder, more effectively or change job" in order to get more cash is it?
I know what I'd do - I'd leave - and I think most of you would too
Then we'll have a bunch of stories in about 6 months about failing schools and we'll have a big round of tut tutting
How much do you think teachers actually should be paid then - Say a secondry school science teacher for example?
Jake's right. If you were selecting a salary for a secondary school teacher what would it be?
My best mate is a head of history at a secondary comprehensive on 29k. That seems entirely reasonable. He does a very stressful job, of vastly more importance than 90% private sector jobs. He gets a lot of holiday, but he can't pick it of course. When we go on holiday off peak as a group, he can't come.
My best mate is a head of history at a secondary comprehensive on 29k. That seems entirely reasonable. He does a very stressful job, of vastly more importance than 90% private sector jobs. He gets a lot of holiday, but he can't pick it of course. When we go on holiday off peak as a group, he can't come.
I'm a teacher in London. Do we get paid well? Reasonably well I suppose. Do we get a lot of holidays? Yes, undoubtedly.
But if I tell you that last week I had to do 8 hours unpaid overtime because of the paperwork that now burdens every class I teach, and then consider that the norm, does it become clearer as to why we're striking? We are fed up with being constantly ripped off with below inflation pay increases because we are doing way more work than we get paid for anyway!
As for the issue of holidays, I would ask anyone who thinks we have too much time off to spend one week shadowing a teacher from 7:30am (when many of us arrive at work to tick boxes and fill in forms) to 7pm (when we have to deal with endless "strategy" meetings after a packed day of 90 minute lessons). I guarantee that it would soon become clear as to why we have the holiday entitlements we do.
Teaching is a great job - unique in fact, but it's not a job just anyone can do. It takes intelligence, stamina and patience (among other things) to do the job successfully. We deserve better than the current government gives us.
But if I tell you that last week I had to do 8 hours unpaid overtime because of the paperwork that now burdens every class I teach, and then consider that the norm, does it become clearer as to why we're striking? We are fed up with being constantly ripped off with below inflation pay increases because we are doing way more work than we get paid for anyway!
As for the issue of holidays, I would ask anyone who thinks we have too much time off to spend one week shadowing a teacher from 7:30am (when many of us arrive at work to tick boxes and fill in forms) to 7pm (when we have to deal with endless "strategy" meetings after a packed day of 90 minute lessons). I guarantee that it would soon become clear as to why we have the holiday entitlements we do.
Teaching is a great job - unique in fact, but it's not a job just anyone can do. It takes intelligence, stamina and patience (among other things) to do the job successfully. We deserve better than the current government gives us.
There are many jobs that carry with them more stress than a teacher could ever envisage. But the employees in these jobs cannot go on strike.
Members of the armed forces for instance, no regular hours for them, or weeks and weeks of holidays , and the stress, well we all know what they have to contend with on this level. For what financial reward, a fraction of what they really deserve. A job in the private sector that carried half the risk would be on much better pay than they get. But do these men or women get the support of most of the general public? The answer is no.
It is mentioned many times on this site, that they know what the job entails, and they are not forced to join, but neither are teachers, policemen, firefighters, nurses/doctors, ambulance personel etc, etc, but gee we are sure glad some decide to do these jobs?
So teachers get back at the job you decided to follow, or find some other career. Teachers should be paid on results. Judging by the standard of education some of our children are leaving school with, they should be taking a reduction in their pay, not seeking a rise.
Members of the armed forces for instance, no regular hours for them, or weeks and weeks of holidays , and the stress, well we all know what they have to contend with on this level. For what financial reward, a fraction of what they really deserve. A job in the private sector that carried half the risk would be on much better pay than they get. But do these men or women get the support of most of the general public? The answer is no.
It is mentioned many times on this site, that they know what the job entails, and they are not forced to join, but neither are teachers, policemen, firefighters, nurses/doctors, ambulance personel etc, etc, but gee we are sure glad some decide to do these jobs?
So teachers get back at the job you decided to follow, or find some other career. Teachers should be paid on results. Judging by the standard of education some of our children are leaving school with, they should be taking a reduction in their pay, not seeking a rise.
I'm with the teachers on this one - I help out occasionally in my son's school and through my work I also do stuff in the local secondary schools and before anyone moans about teachers having a 'cushy' job I'd advise they walked a mile in their shoes - believe me it ain't that easy!
Like the police and other public sector workers, teachers are being crippled by record keeping and paperwork when all they want to do is get on with the job.
Like the police and other public sector workers, teachers are being crippled by record keeping and paperwork when all they want to do is get on with the job.
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