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Davidrio | 00:22 Tue 02nd Sep 2008 | Criminal
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i pleaded guilty to affray how ever denied any intent now I'm going to crown court for a newton hearing.

cut a long story short bar man said some thing to **** me off.. i threw several pint glasses on the floor..1 guy slipped on the broken glass..and need 5 stitches and the other was hit by broken glass...they both add mitt it wasn't aimed at them selves how ever said it was aimed at he bar man which was never touched !!!

it was at first 2xABH & Threats to kill and has been dropped to Affray whats the out come !! i have previous but last conviction was 4 years ago for ABHand affray which was 10 years ago
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Me thinks another Troll.
the bad news is you'll probably hang for it!
the good news is im that lying!

how the hell did that guy slip on broken glass? was he running towards you or away? if not he sounds like a clumsy oaf and should get community service on account of his jelly legs! in any case what ever happens good luck!
Current trends, your previous, show remorse you will be looking at a 2 yr suspended at an educated guess.
Affray is an either way offence, meaning it can be dealt with either at the Crown Court or at the magistrates� court.

Where it is heard and sentenced depends upon the circumstances of the individual offence and in making the decision whether to accept jurisdiction the magistrates (where all cases are heard initially) accept the facts of the offence as presented by the prosecution.

Their guidelines suggest that where the offence involves �...a weapon or throwing objects with conduct causing risk of serious injury� the matter should be committed to the Crown Court, which it seems they have done. You are now going to Crown Court for a Newton hearing because (presumably) although pleading guilty, you are disputing the facts of the offence as presented by the prosecution.

Magistrates� sentencing powers for the offence are limited to six months custody and in committing you to the Crown Court (based on the facts from the prosecution) they believe your offence warrants more than that.

If the Newton hearing goes against you it is therefore likely that a custodial sentence of at least six months will be imposed. Your guilty plea will possibly reduce this, but your previous record of offences involving violence (particularly the ABH four years ago) will not go in your favour.
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A Newton hearing Wizard is:

A part of a court case in which a judge, sitting alone and without a jury, hears evidence on factual points disputed between prosecution and defence.

Hope this clears it up for youx
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Hiya wizard.

A newton hearing is held at crown court and is a mini trial.

Whenever an agreement between the defence and the prosecution is made on a basis of plea, it must be signed by both parties. This is then passed to the judge. He/she has sole discretion as to whether it is accepted or disregarded and then uses it as a basis for sentence.
If the judge rejects the agreement then a Newton hearing should be held to determine the proper basis on which sentence is passed.
If the judge forces a Newton hearing which is found in your favour, full credit should still be awarded.

Thanx
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Newton hearings are also heard in magistrates' courts.

Where a defendant pleads guilty but disputes the facts presented by the prosecution, A newton hearing is held to determine those facts if they would make a material difference to the sentence.

Simple example -speeding.

Defendant pleads guilty to speeding on a motorway but insists he was only doing 80mph. (probable sentence - fine + 3 points).

Prosecution says he was doing 105mph (probable sentence bigger fine + 6 points or a ban).

Newton hearing is held where witnesses give evidence on oath so that magistrates can decide on speed.
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Using a beer glass as a weapon? Oh, I can see through this one!
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Hi i have since had the newton hearing and based on the facts had the intent to hurt the bar man as not guilty ! however because of my actions the Judge did say that the other guys got hurt by my actions, which i never disputed, and i did plead guilty at the earliest opportunity.

What am i looking at now. i must say i have been seeing a councilor since March (1 week after this incident took place ) to address what has happened. i get sentenced in October.

Please advise.
I got 12 months for affray after going to crown court but i pleaded not guilty. guilty plea might help you get less.

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