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Thanks for your answers as usual Ethel we can depend on you for a good answer..
and joggerjayne its simply what i did for a living (car sprayer) before i had my own business, and it was easy to remember ...
going back to the card my debit card with barclays used to be *Visa Electron* but they dropped the electron bit a few years ago
I know the post office issue pre paid cards but it seems they charge you for every transaction you make so no advantage there, it really brasses me off that the card that ryanair issues is not the one they accept for no charges..