I never had a fashionable pair of jeans in my day, they just didn't exist, it was all full skirts and an absence of what is presently considered the required undergarments, we could not buy them, they did not exist, but That is all in the distant past and I am content with my new time here and some lovely friends, Lady Prudentia Trentham, nee Eyre of Hassop Hall. Derbyshire