Redumdancy continued

[FAIRNESS]

'm afraid still not clear about what you are saying. It would help if you could clarify whether:

(a) you and the company accept that the Tech Op job is more or less identical (in terms of responsibilities, job size etc) as the Line Suervisor job

(b) the people who are being made Tech ops Team Leaders (some have just been employed) shift work started this year doing the same role. When they were called team leaders they were not supposed to touch the mechanics of equipment but in practice to get things moving and to hit targets set they did as waiting for an engineer to correct the problem would take too long. In essence the new Tech Ops are being trained to do this.

The firm are not stopping a shift they are just making a couple of people redundant on the basis that they are called Team Leaders and not Tech Ops - stating that they have identified areas that could be improved with the loss of these long serving members of staff, Not looking at the fly by nights and lack of experience to their wealth of knowledge.

There are 4 people involved and each have received letters of intent that two of them will leave. The whole shift and all Tech Ops as a group have not been addressed just these 4

they have approximately 50 years of service and are all totlally stunned - New people have been employed and are waiting to be given the positions as Tech Ops

[Lil O'lady]

It's not fair, and it's not right, but sadly when we became grown-ups these are the factors that got left behind. It is a complete lie to say that the world of work is run along lines of fairness and equitability. However long the 'good' time was you had out of this firm was actually a bonus - so acknowledge your personal worth and move on with as much dignity as you can show.

[thugulike]

Tell them to have a look at the ACAS website. it sounds as though they may have a case for unfair selection for redundancy.

[buildersmate]

I've tried to follow the 3 questions and the answers from Factor and others, but I'm still confused about the circumstances.
Next time, Fairness it really would be helpful if you 'answer' your own original question when providing further info, rather than raising a new question.
To avoid a claim for unfair dismissal an employer has to identify the pool of potentially impacted staff, consult with them individually (or with the Union if collective bargaining is in force), use a system of criteria to assess who from the pool will be impacted.
I can't tell from your question and subsequent statements whether it is fair that only four members of staff are contained in the 'pool'.
Are you saying that these 4 people have identical jobs of the rest of the Technical Operators?