Well said Trevor

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-112148 3/Why-Britain-racist-nation-Europe-equalities- watchdog-Trevor-Phillips-says.html

Wow! this is certainly hot stuff, but it is the truth.

Mr Phillips risks a backlash from the liberal left

Yes they won't like it, especially those on this site. Who now can they make to feel guilty of something they are not?

Trevor Phillips claims the phrase 'institutionally racist' has been hijacked by 'guilt tripping white folks' who refuse to acknowledge that Britain has become 'by far the best place in Europe to live if you are not white'.

Glad someone who is Black has come out to speak openly on this matter. We should be able to debate such matters without being falsely labeled racist, by these 'guilt tripping white folk', (not forgetting others of course).

[jake-the-peg]

Where exactly does he say that?

It's not in his article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1121 442/TREVOR-PHILLIPS-Why-Britain-LEAST-racist-c ountry-Europe.html

I only see the phrase in the Mail

Not in the Telegraph, nor the Standard not in the Press association

I'm at a loss to explain it!

[jake-the-peg]

Sorry I refer to "guilt tripping white folks" not "best place to live in Europe if you're black"

[Gromit]

It seems to confirm what I have always believed, that we are a very tolerant and welcoming nation.

And that contrary to what a small minority assert, multiculturalism is not only working, it is working well in this country.

[jake-the-peg]

OK I heard him on the radio and guess waht more Daily Mail tricks!

He did not say the phrase institutionally racist had been hijacked by guilt tripping white folks

He said the phrase was no longer helpful and that it seperated people each accusing the other of complacency or being guilt tripping white folks

It really is bad that we have to go and root out the lies and misinformation put out by that appalling rag - I wondered where the people who wrote Pravda went after the wall came down.

I think I know now!

[anotheoldgit]

I only see the phrase in the Mail

Not in the Telegraph, nor the Standard not in the Press association

<i.I'm at a loss to explain it!

The simple reason is that if you had read the link thoroughly, you may have noticed these 6 words: Writing exclusively in the Daily Mail,

And if you had read this extract, you would have seen the words : and being guilt-tripping white folks.�

�We need to break what has become an unproductive deadlock over a single phrase in which those who line up one side are accused of being in denial, whilst those who line up on the other are attacked for ignoring progress and being guilt-tripping white folks.�

It really is bad that we have to go and root out the lies and misinformation put out by that appalling rag -

I would consider Trevor Phillips to be very much more intelligent than you, and if he had noticed any lies or misinformation regarding what he had wrote exclusively in the Daily Mail, I am sure we would have heard from him before now.

We know, where the people who wrote Pravda went, they are still brainwashing the likes of you.

In conclusion I would say to you jake-the-peg that you would not dare to accuse the Daily Mail of telling lies, if you were not cowardly hiding behind your pseudonym on this site.

[jake-the-peg]

Not really, the history of the Mail having to settle lible cases is a matter of public record:

Mike Hollingsworth �75,000
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/may/25/da ilymail.pressandpublishing

Sheldon Addelson �4m
http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/794547/Daily -Mail-loses-4m-libel-case-casino-operator/?DCM P=ILC-SEARCH

Marco Materazzi "substantial"
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/i s_/ai_n30967785

Dame Dianna Rigg �40,000
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1444703/Diana-Rigg-wins-libel-case-against-Daily-Mail.html

Coleen McGlaughlin �20,000
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/jul/23/da ilymail.pressandpublishing

Keira Knightly �3000
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Arch ive/Article/20080641267202

Hugh Grant, Thea Rogers, Oisin Fanning.. the list goes on and on and on

and these are just in the last few years!

They may yet add Trevor Phillips to the list but politicians rarely sue and I they must know this.

After all they've had enough experience!

[Quinlad]

"I would consider Trevor Phillips to be very much more intelligent than you"

Was this a typo, AOG? You do know that Trevor Phillips is black don't you? Aren't they 'savages' to you?

[anotheoldgit]

Who said anything about suing? Trevor Phillips is a very outspoken person, and I repeat he would soon be down on the Daily Mail if they had misreported him.

We will give him time, and I expect when he does not take them to task, you will be man enough to apologise. But somehow I think we will have to wait for hell to freeze over before we can expect the likes of you to apologise.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1123 124/LITTLEJOHN-Getting-noses-guilt-tripping-wh ite-folks.html

[jake-the-peg]

Then I'll expect you to accept that the Mail tells lies!

If you still need convincining check with Brian Paddick, their false allegations of his cannibis smoking cost them �100,000!

How can you trust anything that comes from a paper that has a track record that bad for libel?

Oh sorry - I forgot - facts aren't important it's reflecting your readers views that's important.


That's how the Mail's editor describes his job - "reflecting his reader's views"

[jake-the-peg]

Full text of Trevor Phillips' speech here:

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/newsandc omment/speeches/Pages/Macphersonspeech190109.a spx

[anotheoldgit]

Was this a typo, AOG? You do know that Trevor Phillips is black don't you? Aren't they 'savages' to you?

Yes I do know that Trevor Phillips is Black, so what?

No they are not all savages to me, only the Horrible, vicious disgusting, crazy, ghasly, repellent, abnormal, uncivilised, unnatural, barbaric, primitive low life such as these 'SAVAGES'.

Be them Black, White, Brown or even Sky Blue Pink.

Savages, Savages, Savages, ............... beginning to get the gist are we lad?

Or perhaps you do not agree as usual?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-112280 2/Victim-caustic-soda-gang-rape-says-forgive-a ttackers-jailed-23-years.html

[Gromit]

Groundhog day at Planet anotheoldgit I see.