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bertie21 | 19:31 Fri 26th Nov 2004 | Body & Soul
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Can anyone shed light on this - if there is a God - where did he/she come from?  Or how was he/she made??

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That is a "meaning of life" question!! If you find out, let me know!!
Yes. The answer is that there is no God. Sorted.
it might be hard to believe for are brains, but if there is god then he or she was not created but has always been.

To muddy the water for sake of interest, what if we combined the theory that god is everywhere and the theory that science evolved everything. According to quantum physics, all things are interconnected as everything is made of the same fundamental 'building blocks', and God is everywhere, is it not possible that we're all actually part of Him.  In this light, if we consider God being these fundamental building blocks then he really is everywhere, and has been since the big bang.. if you belive in THAT.

 

Look at "Is there a God" in the History & Myths section.

You should sort out the first part of your question first: "Is there a God?".  The second part will be resolved by answering the first part for yourself.

And God cannot be a 'She'.

 

Two words: Scare Mongering
There is,nor has there ever been a God...It's a man-made concept....
To categorically state there is no god is to approriate one of the aspects attributable to god... that of omniscience.  One may quite correctly state that one does not believe there is a god, but to so state as fact is to establish that you are god-like in your infinite knowledge. There is valid information presented for both sides of the question.  Each must investigate the evidence and render a verdict.

clanad - shut up. god is an artificial concept. primitive man made a weapon for killing animals with, fire, a house, etc etc. this fella looked around & thought hmmm if i've made these things, who made this river & that tree? must've been someone like me. call it god.

hence man made god in his own image

incidentally god was sexless until fairly recently - the church decided to get rid of paganism, so wrote out all the sacred-goddess stuff & decided this fictional being should be a man to help support the patriarchal society of the day

ooh and much of the jesus myths was based on pythagorus - he "rose from the dead" (though it's acknowledged that he hid somewhere to fake his death) and he could walk on water.

magicdice

That is only your opinion and carries neither weight nor credence until you can deliver a rationally-considered and respectfully-delivered basis for your view.

In other words, your posting is neither use nor ornament.

 

All I got to say in this matter is that if 'god' does exist then why should it be a he or she?.  My theory is simple god spelt backwards is dog so maybe people r looking at the wrong kind of species and not getting the 'message'

Merlin

my sources are:

Keith Devlin's "The Maths Gene" for my first point about creating things

Leonard Mlodinow's "Euclid's Window" for jesus/pythagorus comparisons

as for my comment about male/female, i can't remember where i read that but i remember quoting directly from the original source during a debate in philosophy of religion last year

 

and yes, it is only my opinion but can you really expect any more that opinions in answer to this sort of question?

also a brief apology for any offence i may have caused, shouldn't be unleashed on the internet whilst wasted!

Magicdice
Shuuuut iiiiiit!!
Just because I haven�t had a decent argument in a long while, I shall agree with you in essence but argue nevertheless.
God is not an artificial concept; a concept cannot, strictly speaking, be artificial. He is a concept  that satisfies a need. The God of the gaps was not �made� by primitive man in his own image � he was made with an image worthy of awe, praise and sacrifice � something greater than primitive man himself: �I can�t make the big red hot thing of light pass over every day � it must be something greater than me that does it�.
The God of the OT and the NT is genderless. He is referred to as �He� only by convention. To refer to that God as �she� implies that the person using the term wants to assert that God could be female when she can�t. Even if she wants to be � Oh all right then, if she insists.
Jesus was Pythagorus? That�s a new one. I have yet to see any worthwhile argument that denies Jesus of Nazareth existed. There is no reference, at least none that I have seen in the Gospel, to Jesus� assessment of the square on the hypotenuse.
But what is your own personal view of the whole thing? Because yes, actually I do expect more than opinion on this sort of thing � I expect rational and reasoned argument from a personal view.
So go for it.
yes there is god .there is only one god and if you dont meet him when you are alive. you will definetly meet him when you are dead. but blessed are thoes who believe on him?

Chris888

As I said to Magicdice, what is your own personal view of the whole thing? Because I do expect more than bare-boned opinion and mantra � I expect rational and reasoned argument from a personal view.


So go for it - describe your God.

Ok first thing that I have to say is if there is no God does that mean that there is no Jesus either? I know I do believe in God and yes i strongly suggest that you not say anything against him because there maybe other users that believe also. Second of all if there is no Jesus and there is no God and for thsoe of you who believes that we evolved from DOGS (haha bad11thebone) then how did we get here? and if no one was alive to say that they were aroung for Jesus or God or Adam and Eve then how do you know that there is no God?!?!?! All I am trying to say is that no one knows. This is more of something that we just have to have some room in our hearts to believe and know that there really is a God because I didn't know that there really is a God but who could have created the heavens and the earth?! The DEVIL?!?!? (Ya right) But still you may just not believe but because we don't know then no one has any room to say anything about this not even me and I just wanted to say this to sort things out for everyone who doesn't believe and this is not some scam to get you to try to believe!!

I also wanted to say a couple of things to people who also responded to this question. 1. Scarlett , MURKY, & chris888 -- I totally agree with you three!!! 2. Tweed --How do you know? Just like I said you weren't there when all of this happened. Merlin and magicdice--You both shut up! You both know nothing of this God and nothing about anything!! If you know so much then why don't you go die and see for yourselves!!! This is all I have to say and I'm sorry for writing/typing so much but I really needed to express myselves and stand up for my fellow Catholics. Thank you and I'm out!!! --J.P.--

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