Interesting, JohnAlex, very interesting for sure. Never heard of the wine( mind you not a wine conoisseur as drink alcohol very seldomly) or aware of the expression yet pleased to know this as well as the explanation. Wish, on another note, that all posters would put how many letters next to clue + a please or thank you- takes very little effort yet means much!! The world would be a far better place if everyone was well mannered/ polite methinks, too. Good night to all + sweet dreams :-) Warmest wishes, Bea