Exclusion from school

[corporal41]

Should a schoolboy age 14 and an autistic be excluded from school for reasons of lack of school discipline namely dres code, tardiness on entering lessons and a general trait of his illness to be overactive during lessons.

[mrs_overall]

Tricky one.....depending on all the circumstances.

Dress code - if the school has one then yes, he should follow the rules. At that age his parent should ensure he is appropriately dressed before leaving home.

As for the other points, a lot depends on where he is on the autistic spectrum. Is he statemented? Does he have a mentor/allocated teaching assistant? Has any provision been made for him to have a "time out" pass if he is being overexcitable in class? Does he have a watch and understand the concept of time?

[pink-kittens]

And is he in mainstream school?

Ofc there are allowances made for autisitc children but if he is mainstream school he will still be expected to follow basic rules and one of those is uniform where it exists.

Is there any treatment involved and is it just autism or are there other considerations?

[corporal41]

Thank you. The basics are as indicatd. He is a boy who whilst understanding when explanations or instructions are given, he soon lets it go out of his mind. He saya "he feels hot, hence off comes the tie and/or blazer. he was given a new watch and on the first day, he put it in his pocket. He said, "It was causing a rash". When teachers are talking to him, especially if they are trying to impart discipline, he is unable to contain himself and this is construed as "Argueing" He will chattter and sometimes move from jis desk. He has a helper on occasions. Where the teachers understand him, he seems to conform and when his behaviour is monitored, he receives 10/10 frequently. On the day he was excluded, 10 /10 was given on three occasions and one joule for effort. He say the teacher shouted at him and he was accused of argueing.
I would mention that the teacher involved was a supply teacher and most probably did not know or understand how to deal with the problem. He receives medication from the consultant at the local hospital. Another problem is that when asked for explanations he is unable to express himself properly .
He has been excluded for 5 days, without any schoolwork provided and I am of the opinion that this is a case where an interview with the Governors should be sought. An email was sent to the headmaster on the last afternoon at school. No reply on the first day of his exclusion was received. I am of the view that it is a case of poor teachers practising a form of bullying.

[R1Geezer]

sounds like a fairly intelligent lad who's figured out how to play the system. Trendy syndromes and gullible parents are all he needs to ake the pi55 out of the system.

[pink-kittens]

Autistic children are often far more intelligent than you or I Geezer, so you hit the nail on the head there

It is possibly best to wait now for a reply to your email and other questions and proceed from there

[mrs_overall]

The school has a legal duty to make sure his education continues whilst he is excluded and he should have received work to do at home.

You need to contact the Education Social Worker responsible for that school and make a formal complaint.
I would also make a complaint to the Chairman of the school governors.

[baileybird]

Whilst I sympathise with you corporal, I can see this from the other side. My daughter has a very severely autistic child in her class who constantly disrupts lessons and demands so much of the teacher's attention.
This aggrevates both the teacher and the other pupils and one could argue that they are only human.
Thankfully none of my children have any illnesses and I can understand that you will feel that your child is entitled to as much attention as he needs to be able to learn to the best of his ability, but why if he is so badly affected, does your boy not attend a specialist school where he will receive all the attention and sympathy that he deserves?

[corporal41]

I note that there have been a couple of cynical comments. Mine was a serious question as I wanted to find out the pros and cons of the exclusion system. Some of the answers have been helpful and I thank the senders. I think we can now draw a line over my question . I might add that I was of the opinion that my question would have referred to the panel of solicitors whom I understood to be available. Once again, thank you.

[bednobs]

hiya corporal, At the top of the page where you post q's there is this statement:

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[bednobs]

hiya corporal, At the top of the page where you post q's there is this statement:

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It is very unlikely that you would be able to recieve advice from solicitors anywhere without paying

[corporal41]

Can we please draw a line under this problem. Thnk you.