one for you Naomi!........if you wouldn't mind

[The Sherman]

Well actually anyone but i have heard Naomi talk about this quite a bit.

am gonna start with please theorise and in your opinion
so that it is known that I just want someones opinion who is more knowledgable than me!

but yeah Naomi could you tell me what you think the life and times of Jesus christ was like? what he did and how he acted and as you have said before he was just maybe a priest, how he somehow became the son of god and then a miracle working reincarnation?



anyone else can answer I just know naomi has mentioned it a few times

[jackthehat]

We all 'know' the story of Robin Hood, don't we ?
If we selected a handful of ABers to write down his story, there will surely be a few variations.........

The Nottingham Tourist Board could then nominate a panel to sift through the various versions and pick the four 'best' for inclusion into a new book promoting Nottingham(shire).

In time, these four versions will become the definitive texts for study regarding the life and works of Robin Hood.

[naomi24]

By your reckoning then, Sherman, Beatrice's theory has to be as good as any.

Hello Jack. :o)

[The Sherman]

Yes! but isnt that the point! yours is based on study of what has been written before so will have the weight of the questionable evidence but really its ALL guess work - its why trying to tie to Christians to the same story is so hard cause they dont really know what they believe - And they all believe slightly different "facts" because its all questionable!?

[naomi24]

Of course it's all questionable. I don't know if Jesus existed, but I believe it's likely, and in order to try to come up with something resembling a rational explanation for the events related by the writers, and altered over the centuries, these are some of the questions I asked.

Why did Wise Men take the trouble to travel a very long way to visit the new-born Jesus?

Why did Herod take the information that a new king had been born so seriously that he ordered the slaughter of all boys under the age of 2?

Where was Jesus for 18 years of his life, and why when he surfaced again did he bring with him a philosophy somewhat akin to that of the eastern religions, eg not an eye for an eye, but turn the other cheek?

Why was Jesus crucified, and who was responsible?

Did he die on the cross?

What did Paul know of Jesus?

Incidentally, it's not ALL guesswork. For example, had Jesus been charged with blasphemy, as is commonly believed, under Jewish law, he would have been stoned to death. The Romans worshipped multiple Gods and for them, blasphemy wasn't an issue. The charge against him was one of sedition, and the penalty for that was crucifixion. In short, the Romans saw him as a troublemaker. Additionally, Jesus supposedly died within a few hours, whereas in fact it takes several days for a crucified man to die, and his legs weren't broken to help the process along. The final clue to his survival is the fact that after he was pronounced dead, his body bled - and dead bodies don't bleed - but maybe the writers of the Gospels weren't aware of that.

The story cannot possibly be accurate. The writers have demonised the Jews for his death, and they've exonerated the Romans of all blame. Don't you wonder why? Mmm .... could it be that St Paul is rearing his ugly head again!

[The Sherman]

its so fascinating and confusing at the same time. I agree its very likely there was a jesus christ and he was an interesting character for the time. but its still hard for me to comprehend characters like Beatrice who to me, just seem so out there! I Like you like thae actual history of it all but i just cant make the connection -man gets crucifed on a cross so beatrice believes in angels demons god gods trinities the devil i cant see the connection!
But again thank you for taking the time towrite all this I find it most interesting. Also if anyone has analternate to Naomi's version would love to hear it?

[naomi24]

Characters like Beatrice believe what others tell them, and see only what they want to see.

[brionon]

Naomi, you're suprised I had to ask, is Not an answer. Please give me the Biblical reference to your belief that jesus was a rabbi.

[Schutzengel]

Brionon. I gave you the biblical reference, and the explanation, in my post on this thread yesterday 30th April, at 14.14. If you would care to look as you obviously missed it. I'm sure Naomi could confirm if you are still unable to find it in the bible. Best wishes. Schutz.

[naomi24]

Brionon, I assumed the reason I declined to answer your question would have been obvious - Schutzengel had already given you the reference - and I am surprised you asked because a couple of days ago you told me you knew all about the bible.

[Theland1]

Nims - what a load of botox!

[naomi24]

Theland, dear, calling an opinion a 'load of botox' without justifying your statement, is no argument. As I said, I'm willing to listen to other opinions, and if someone comes up with something more plausible, I'm happy to say I was wrong, so is that all you wanted to say, or do you have a reasoned response to offer that may cause me reconsider?