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so what do MP's spend their wages on then....

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Nosha123 | 09:47 Thu 14th May 2009 | News
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They claim expenses for mortgages, rent, furniture, food, household objects, decorative repairs, renovations....

What do they spend their wages on then???

Forgive me if this has already been posted before - but I have been too angry about this latest news topic to even read any posts or watch news.....

Struggling to find the money to fill my car up with petrol and buy food - perhaps I should just put in an expenses claim to someone!

Why should I have to save up and pay for our own property renovations when I am already paying taxes for theirs!!! I think we should all get a �50 tax rebate this year from them all!!!
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A few of them have mistresses, they may send their kids to private school, they enjoy the latest cars etc etc ....it soon adds up.
Its not only this year though Nosha, it has been going on for years, and they know it, that's why some are panicing now and paying the money back, hoping it will solve the matter.... I think they should be treated like the criminals they are and the way any other criminal would be treat. Send em all to Guantanamo or something.....

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I agree Pete... The only reason they are all getting het up now is cos they have finally been caught!!!! It's no good bleating how they have abided by all the rules... its not a fair system and we should not be lining their pockets in this way!

Who on earth are we supposed to vote for now in the upcoming Euro Elections??? They are all as bloody bad as each other!
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Probably a stupid question but what would happen if nobody voted? or only say 20% of the population?
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Yes Steve there are those who have indeed committed fraud. Dont waste Police time investigating who leaked the info to the Telegraph - investigate and charge the fraudsters.

And I agree coccinelle.. lets start amass boycott of the next election and tell everyone to NOT vote
most have to run offices in two places - Westminster and their home constituencies - and employ staff for them both. I believe this comes out of their pay. It costs money.
Nosha - don't waste police time investigating who leaked the information? If you ran a business, would you be happy with an employee leaking data to your rivals? Would you be happy if the police told you they didn't want to waste time investigating? Investigating crime is their job.
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Aaah poor MP's having to run two offices. Though I hardly think they require STAFF!!! A cleaner maybe - and someone to iron their shirts.... but nothing else!!!!
And how do you explain the MP who has been exposd as claiming �16,000 for a mortgage that had already been repaid...

Oh whoops... what a silly mistake I made.. funny how it wasnt spotted until this month though!!!!

The letter from the lender saying the loan was now complete must have slipped his mind... or maybe his staff opened the letter and then mislaid it - and his other staff who maintain his bank accounts never noticed the debit had also stopped.
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Dear jno... the information that was 'leaked' to the press - we as the public have a right to know what our taxes are being spent on.... I believe the whole debacle started as a journo applied under the RIGHTS OF INFORMATION ACT to obtain some expense details - thus resulting in these leaks...

The information should be there for us all to see.. it is after all OUR money!!!!

people want to speak to their MPs, not to the cleaners, and it's right that they should; that's what the MPs are there for. I'd soon get annoyed if my calls to his office were put through to a call centre in Bangalore.

I didn't comment on anyone claiming money for non-existent mortagages. You just asked what they spent their wages on.
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Whilst I believe they should all pay back the money, this amount, �110,000 is a drop in the ocean compared to the amount Sir Fred Goodwin should give up, especially considering what he did to RBS. Doesn't Lord Myners therefore need to pay back �700,000 per year for approving the payout. Is this coming from the State pension or National Insurance contributions? Either way its disgusting.
The system clearly needs looking at.

However, it'd be good if envy and bitterness didn't cloud the issue. What I want is MPs to be well-paid - so that we get the best people. Slash their earnings and talented people who might have been considering standing as an MP will choose to work in business instead. We'll be left with a poorer standard of parliamentarian, and a greater class divide: people who are independently wealthy will be able to afford to stand as an MP, those without daddy's inheritance won't.

Like with any job, they should also be paid expenses. If your company wants to go to a conference down south but expects you to pay for the hotel from your own salary, you'd decline to go. Same principle applies. But some of the claims that have been exposed in no way pertain to the job itself. Dog food and tennis court repair are just lauaghable.

As I said on another thread, allow them to claim expenses but put them in the public domain. They'll then have to think twice before claimng for anything frivolous. The press and public will expect them to be able to justify it. Which seems fair to me. If it's reasonable and their job requires them to incur that expense, I'm fine with that.

What we don't want is to penny-pinch. You get the standard of politician you pay for. Skimp on that and we'll see a brain drain away from politics. And we'll have our laws made by people even less talented than the current lot.
The instructions about how they are supposed to behave are already in place here..

http://www1.sky.com/news/GreenBook.pdf

Look at section 1.3 fundamental priciples. If they just actually stuck to those then nothing more needs to happen.
Not much has been said about the fees office who ok'd all of these ludicrous claims and so colluded in the crime. Weren't they the people supposed to be ensuring that those principles were adhered to?

Of course..they're only principles..guidlines if you like..not rules as such and so no rules were broken..etc etc how sick I am of hearing that.

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