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Dumped van on equestrian land
I posted a thread a while ago concerning an old derelict and unusable van which had been dumped by the owner onto private land opposite our house. It appears that the van is SORN.
Despite several complaints by us and other residents, the council still say there is nothing they can do as the land is private. My own feeling is that they simply cant be bothered. The land is designated as equestrian - can we insist that the van is removed on those grounds? There is nothing equestrian about storing a dumped van.
Despite several complaints by us and other residents, the council still say there is nothing they can do as the land is private. My own feeling is that they simply cant be bothered. The land is designated as equestrian - can we insist that the van is removed on those grounds? There is nothing equestrian about storing a dumped van.
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This was my original posting in case anybody is interested.
This was my original posting in case anybody is interested.
I do know that a different land owner along the road was ordered by the council to clear his land of derelict vehicles and rubbish a while ago. These were not even visble from the road. As far as I know the reason given was that the land's use was supposed to be Equestrian.
Please does anybody know with certainty under what legislation he might have been ordered to clear the land?
Please does anybody know with certainty under what legislation he might have been ordered to clear the land?
To answer the planning aspect, I'm sorry but you won't get anywhere. A single van does not constitute a 'temporary' or even a 'permanent' structure - so no offence related to residential permission. And a single van hardly constitutes the owner using the field for 'business' purposes.
He would probably turn around and tell you it is field shelter for a horse (which is permitted).
He would probably turn around and tell you it is field shelter for a horse (which is permitted).
Frequently trailers/vans/caravans/containers etc are used to hold animal feed as they are rat free. The landowner can store any vehicle on their land providing they dont live in it without planning permission.
I'm not familiar with 'equestrian land', ie land purely for horses? A business can be equestrian on agricultural land.
I'm not familiar with 'equestrian land', ie land purely for horses? A business can be equestrian on agricultural land.
Lots of negative comments here :-(
My local council's website states:
"Other situations that can be considered for planning enforcement include:
allowing land to fall into such a poor condition that it harms the amenity of the area."
It certainly does that. I'm going to pursue that avenue. A lot of people who walk past comment on what an eyesore it is.
My local council's website states:
"Other situations that can be considered for planning enforcement include:
allowing land to fall into such a poor condition that it harms the amenity of the area."
It certainly does that. I'm going to pursue that avenue. A lot of people who walk past comment on what an eyesore it is.
Sorry - I didn't mean they were negative as in "unhelpful" - I meant negative as in "not encouraging".
I did however receive a telphone call this morning from the local Council.The Planning Enforcement team are unable to help but they have referred the matter to the Environmental Enforcement team. They should be able to take action under what they called the Section 215 Untidy Land Act.
I've googled Untidy Land and (though neither of them are my local council) Windsor and Leicestershire Councils had interesting little gems about the Act.
I'm hopeful, optimistic and have fingers, eyes and toes crossed.
I did however receive a telphone call this morning from the local Council.The Planning Enforcement team are unable to help but they have referred the matter to the Environmental Enforcement team. They should be able to take action under what they called the Section 215 Untidy Land Act.
I've googled Untidy Land and (though neither of them are my local council) Windsor and Leicestershire Councils had interesting little gems about the Act.
I'm hopeful, optimistic and have fingers, eyes and toes crossed.
And yes the act applies even to private land. See this example - incidentally Medway IS my local council.
http://medwaymessenger.co.uk/kol08/article/def ault.asp?article_id=60001
http://medwaymessenger.co.uk/kol08/article/def ault.asp?article_id=60001
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