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tsar - betrayed/raped?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.I believe George wanted the Tsar brought to Britain but the government avoided doing so, fearful of importing Russian revolutionary feeling. The British, fighting a war against Germany - led by another of George's cousins, Kaiser Wilhelm - probably weren't desperate to have all George's family around; he was related to royals all over Europe, good and bad.
I don't know anything about the rape claim; where did you see it?
http://www.geocities.com/naciones_unidas_queenvictoria/g eorgeV4.html.
Although it is said that George wrote to Nicholas offering him asylum but he never received the letter .
Shaneystar is right (and I was wrong): it seems that it was George himself in the end who denied Nicholas asylum, at the suggestion of his advisers but rather against his own wishes. So: yes, he did betray his cousin, but because he was putting his own subjects first, which is what any king should do.
Sorry, I'm doing all this from googling, and the web isn't the most reliable source of historical interpretation. Anyone out there have a, er, book?
jno is right on this,
Documents (released under recent government rulings) show that it was actually George V that refused Nicholas and family asylum here(whether he did so sadly is another matter).
Just before Nicholas and family's death,two of Nicholas sisters (Xenia and Olga) had managed to escape and lived for a long while in the UK.
There has been talk for a long time about a Royal Family Concordat (A Private Treaty) that allowed the two sisters money from the Imperial Family's savings(in the Bank of England) and the rest(the majority) went to George V!
This is seen as one of the reasons that Xenia and Olga refused to recognise "Anastasia"(Whoever she was) for fear of losing any of the money.Nicholas' Mother (The Dowager Empress) recognised Anastasia,but she had money of her own,and had nothing to lose.I am not saying she WAS Anastasia,but just how George V and family may have manipulated the situation.
Oddly enough,when Edward VII died,the Royal Family was not exactly rich,but after GeorgeV's death their savings etc had multiplied enormously,so just where did it come from?
This it is assumed,is why the Royal Family(today) is so rich.
As for the rape allegations,you only have to look at where the come from to judge their validty!
PS:~
Just to confuse matters even futher!LOL
George V was in fact betraying two of his cousins,as both Nicholas and Alexandra were his cousins!
George V's Mother (Queen Alexandra) was sister to Dagmar (Empress Marie Feodorovna) whos son was Nicholas.
George V's Father (Edward VII) was brother to Princess Alice who was mother to Alexandra(Nicholas' wife).
I have to say it is not often jno gets historical facts wrong. George V told Lloyd George he was not keen to grant him asylum. It coincided with a period when the British Royal family were going through a roughish patch and George didnt want them around - the Russians were regarded as notoriously dissolute and to a certain extent having brought it on themselves.
The correspondence is not particularly private, and the letters were written by his private secretary - Lord Stamfordham - gain extra points by pronouncing it STAM-fuddum - and who for even more extra points was Ld S's famous grand-daughter? yup: Diana
The bolshevik's murders were not dependent on refusal of asylum.
Rape - everyone? - poor old Dr Botvinnik - I bet he wasnt consenting....and wondering what he had done to deserve such an end.
Oh in terms of anastasia - we have DNA from the Russian Royal family and that matches as near as damn-it a living maternal relation - the Duke of Edinburgh.
[For the technical - the analysis was on mt-DNA and there was a little hiccough called heteroplasmy]
and we have some of Anastasia's DNA - and erm sorry no match at all.
PP
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