which team,packers or bears

[sfsorrow]

Hi,is there anybody out there you can give me a definitive answer,as I get a different one everywhere I look,which team is older,the green bay packers or the chicago bears,the packers were formed on aug 14th 1919,but it seems the bears have a more confusing history having morphed from the staleys and the cardinals,im a packer fan and my brother is a bear,I really need closure on this as its causing a lot of heated debate...pleease help !!!!

[wallacia]

does this help at all.

http://www.bearshistory.com/seasons/index.aspx

[sfsorrow]

no im afraid not,i've looked there but it does'nt give a date thankyou anyway

[R1Geezer]

they started in 1919 as the decatur Staleys, a company team.

[janzman]

In short it looks like the Packers are older.
The Green Bay Packers were founded during meetings held at the editorial offices of the Green Bay Press-Gazette between August 11th and August 14th 1919.

George Halas founded Decatur Staley in 1920.On 17th September 1920 George Halas met representatives of 12 other clubs at Ralph Hays Hupmobile in Canton Ohio and formed The American Professional Football Association ...later becoming the NFL.
On 28th January 1922 The Decatur Staley franchise was renamed The Chicago Bears

[sfsorrow]

cheers janzman,I have to say its all very confusing,as the bears claim to be older but it seems to me they are not,hopefully this will keep my brother quiet (for now) lol

[janzman]

Google nfl. From the home page click on team icon to open Packers home page-hover over 'history' move down and click 'chronology'.
The Bears dont use the word chronology so from their home page click 'Tradition' then 'History by Decades'.
Theres loads more info here sfsorrow
Hopr this helps with the debate