postal strikers support

[johnny.5]

as a type of sympathy support for the posties why dont we just RETURN TO SENDER all non essential ( ie junk mail ) via our nearest post box ?

[rov1200]

The trouble is the posties don't get paid any extra for all this additional work involved.

[markh1972]

Up the workers about time this contry showed some balls if it wasnt for strikes wed still be in the dark ages no sick pay,holiday pay etc whilst these boses are getting richer.....crosier is just one of them

[buildersmate]

Yea, too right mate. We workers need our income to make sure we've got enough to invest in some educashun.

[VHG]

>Up the workers about time this contry showed some balls if it wasnt for strikes wed still be in the dark ages

Yes I remember good old "red robbo" at British Leyland taking everyone out on strike.

Pity NONE of them have got jobs at Leyland/Rover any more.

The postal workers are going the same way.

Every time they go on strike another company stops using Royal Mail.

http://www.drapersonl....article?referrer=RSS

[R1Geezer]

Just a hunch mark but assuming you were born in 1972, I think I'm right in saying you have no clue what strikes almost did to us in the 60's and 70's. Typical psuedo socialist brainwashed by lefty teachers who could not stand the thought that their ideology was flawed. Unions where useful over a century ago, now they are largely irrelevant, and probably, in most cases, counter productive to their members.

[gonzo00]

well said r1 ....watched the unions sell us down the river more than once mate. i'm sure the same will happen to the postal workers. the only losers in a strike situation are the workers themselves..lost wages being the biggest issue.

[ELVIS68]

Junkmail is the only thing keeping Royal Mail in business, you get the odd birthday cards and the christmas busy period but apart from that there isn`t much first class mail any more, in five years time the Royal Mail will be a thing of the past

[jake-the-peg]

Communications are changing much less mail is being sent.

When faced with a changing market do you

a) Identify and exploit new revenue streams
b) Try and do exactly the same thing cutting the workforce to meet a declining market until you are no longer viable?

Seems to me that Royal management have eitherpicked b or have tried and failed a and then gone on to b.

So laying the blame with the Unions for Royal Mail's general Malaise seems pretty shortsighted from where I'm sitting.

I particularly like VHG's hillarious reference to the Motor industry.

I think we all know that Rover's final demise was from management stuffing their pensions at the expense of the company - how they've avoided prosecution I have no idea.

We can also look about and see a fair number of very sucessful British Car companies - not least the mini

Only thing is they have only been sucessful where you have British workers with foreign management

This clearly gives the lie to the pathetic claims that British workforces killed the car industry in this company. British workers can and do still make cars - British managers cannot and do not manage the business of doing so

[buildersmate]

I understand that the CWU leaders are on tidy salaries, with rather attractive rates on their home loans from their employers.
Do as I say, mate, not do as I do.

[jake-the-peg]

Which would end if it all went under

It would incentivise them not to rock the boat given that I neither see your evidence nor your point

[Sqad]

mark....too right mate, in the last 10years, the rich have got richer and the poor have got poorer and that has been under a Labour government.

How do you try to reverse this? vote Tory.

[jno]

The Royal Mail can't win. Other operators have been allowed to cream off their most lucrative business - then still hand all the mail back to the posties to deliver. Neither staff nor management are to blame for that; but management still make sure their remuneration is high.

According to Wikipedia, in 2008, the BBC reported that Royal Mail's trading position worsened dramatically to an annual loss of £279 million a year in financial 2007. Crozier's remuneration (he's the CEO) almost tripled to £3 million. And that's for a job that basically involves running the business into the ground, closing Post Offices and sacking people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Crozier

A good analaysis here:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v31/n18/maya01_.html

[R1Geezer]

Jake no one is laying the blame at the workers door, no doubt their has been mismanagement etc. I'm saying in a fiercely competative market, striking just makes it more likely that they'll go down. No doubt the workers are angry but if they stood back they'd see that they are doing themselves no favours by striking.

[BertiWooster]

Lots of businesses are switching to 'competitors' like TNT and Parcelforce , according to a news item i heard the other day .
It is true - Parcel Force have seen an increase in business .

However - ' Competitors like Parcel Force ' ? - Durrr - Parcel Force is part of the Royal Mail group of campanies . The state of Journalism these days

[jno]

I have just found a whole bag of mail dumped in my front garden, for several streets around. Not wishing to be a scab by delivering it all myself, I phoned Royal Mail and told them to take it away.