Europe OUT

[brionon]

http://www.telegraph....out-of-recession.html

Get out Now and let Europe sink,don't you think ?

[Sqad]

Just remind me..............who was it said that:

"UK will be last into the recession and the first out?"

[Sqad]

Just had another thought:

Why should Europe want the UK in the Euro? They are doing O.K without us.

[rov1200]

It does not take much working out why Britain is almost alone in being stuck in the quagmire.

1. Bankers.....only worried about themselves using the Gecko principle.
2. Two major wars where we are trying to punch above our weight with troop numbers.
3. Our manufacturing base has been sold abroad to the highest bidder so our fiscal policies have less effect.
4. Our MPs are a shambles, more worried about duckhouses than running the country.
5. An open door policy on immigration. The points based system may stop the skilled from coming here but it is the dregs and unskilled channel hoppers that make up the majority.
6. Our free health service has been abused by health tourists.
7. Doctors hours have been cut at the same time they have been given enormous salary increases.
8. We turned down joining the Euro when we had the opportunity and the pound has languished ever since.

I could go on but the situation cannot be improved by electing a Tory government either.

[brionon]

Zacsmaster I was using Irony or,perhaps sarcasm,sorry.

[BillyBB]

B on your point the economies of EU members are all different and if they had not submitted control over their own policies to Eurocrats then Spain, Ireland, Portugal etc, even France, could all be doing much better. As could we with the right government (smaller).

From that article -"However, the third quarter was not a success story for all euro area economies, with Spain, Greece and Cyprus remaining in recession. GDP in Spain and Greece fell by 0.3pc, while Cyprus contracted by 1.4pc. Third quarter data for Ireland, where growth was flat in the second, was not yet available."

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[BillyBB]

Rov - It does not take much working out why Britain is almost alone in being stuck in the quagmire.

1. Bankers.....over regulated in the wrong ways by Brown's FSA
2. Two major wars where we are trying to punch above our weight. - Blame Blair for that.
3. Our manufacturing base - is strong in high tech but do you want to do repetitive manual labour making plastic toys for low wages? We will never compete just on energy cost never mind labour. Green taxes will finish it off.
4. Our MPs are a shambles, more worried about duckhouses than running the country. - All of them self serving troughers.
5. An open door policy on immigration. The points based system - only applies to non EU who normally are the ones we want! Cannot stop the benefit tourists whilst we are in the EU.
6. Our free health service has been abused by health tourists. - Blame EU again, we cannot deny treatment.
7. Doctors hours have been cut at the same time they have been given enormous salary increases. - Stop govt meddling and let experts run NHS.
8. We turned down joining the Euro and the pound has languished ever since. - good for exports but sadly the manufacturing deficit has increased due to tax payers like me subsidising others buying a new foreign car.

I could go on but the situation cannot be improved by electing a Tory government either. - agreed, they will be BluLabour. We need to shrink the state but Labour have beeen buying client votes since 1997. The increase in govt spending since 1997 is greater than the entire income tax bill. Anyone can see that services are not that much better, most of it is wasted on crazy initiatives, box ticking and grand glory schemes.
What would you rather have - no income tax or thousands of bureaucrats all trying to increase their little empires?