puppy not himself

[tinkerbell23]

had jag on monday....but weve been training him with this pet correcting spray that makes a loud hiss.....i dont know if we overdone it yesterday...hes a little subdued...still playing with us and the odd bark.... but just not himself...could it be the jag or is it our fault i feel so bad ...?? xx he is cuddling in quite the thing and licking us...but im afraid weve scared him ??x

[lankeela]

If these are his initial baby puppy jabs, I presume he is only a few weeks old. What on earth can he be doing that warrants a correcting spray at this age? For gods sake throw the damn thing away, whether or not this is what is making him subdued and tell us what he is doing so we can offer proper advice on dealing with it (which your breeder should have done before selling him to you).

[brenda]

Poor little mite, a baby dog , jabbed as they have to be , scared , maybe a bit off colour and so on, then being targetted by a hissing spray-- quite unbelievable.
I feel so sorry for him , and have grave doubts about your suitability to own a dog.
There really is no need for the spray and I cannot envisage that there would be in a dog so very young.
Am shocked by this , he would be better re-homed .Sorry.

[icemaiden]

I am shocked and saddened!!! Words fail me..

Please stop using the corrector now, throw it away for your little puppies sake. Get yourself a good puppy training book and or go to a reputable puppy trainer. You should be ashamed of yourself, I hope to god you don't have children.

[madmaggot]

I can only emphatically agree with the above answers.
The manufacturers push these sprays as the easy answer to dog training, they arn't. Do take the pup to a good training class or at least read a couple of books about training. It's not really dificult as a pup wants to please you; once you've learnt how to show the pup what it is that you want it to do you're on the way.

[garner]

Goodness me! if you are not prepared to train your puppy yourself, why have you got this poor mite.Do as others have advised on here.

[woofgang]

Wheat in heaven's name are you doing to the poor mite and what was the breeder thinking to let you have one without loads of support and advice. Those hissing sprays are a fairly sever correction for a problem adult NOT for using on babies

[peppermum]

Only use the spray when absolutely neccessary. he's probably too young to understand what behavior is wrong, much better to reward good behavior that punnish bad.
Julie

[fredpuli47]

Being a little less forthright than the above ( because I don't want to get banned ! LOL) you have to understand that in being sold such a device you have been sold a pup (Boom! Boom ! ).He's a baby, in human terms, but a lot easier than a baby because babies don't think in terms of always wanting to please their adults, parents. He does.
He likes a cuddle and he likes a soft encouraging voice.He doesn't understand 'right' and 'wrong' in human terms,only 'approved of' and 'not approved of'. He knows the former from the approving voice and praise [wags tail,acts happy] and the latter from being stopped the instant he tries it and the disapproving voice that goes with that. [looks puzzled and tries again but gets the same response, so eventually gives up, if only because he prefers the other reaction!]

Toilet training is a bit different, because at first he's too young, not mentally developed, to know there's a place to excrete and be able to stop himself anyway. But any good book will tell you how to teach that. There's umpteen sound methods, none of them are instant ( and none of them involve punishment or sprays or corrective devices like yours !)

[brenda]

fred---you have said everything that i wanted to say -- but was so angry I just couldn't . so thank you .brenda.

[mandimoo]

at least tinkerbell is actually thinking about, and concerned about what she is doing and has trusted her instinct by querying it. im sure there are many that dont care enough to do so much as that.

[lankeela]

Shame tinkerbell has not come back and told us what the problems are, as I asked in my first reply. There are plenty of people on here who can offer advice gained from experience.

[woofgang]

tinl if you are reading this we sounded off not because we are tinkerbell haters but because we are animal lovers!!!
Come back and chat.

[tinkerbell23]

guys my internet has been down....he has a loving home here and very well cared for.....this was recommended by the vet and at the pet store.....the vet commented on how unruly he was....he is going for faces not just fingers an toes like i expected....i do not have kids thanks...for the record i did throw it away. im not ashamed of myself i was given advice and i took it., pepper mum thanks for the advice, as to fredpuli and mandimoo...he is back to himself now and most likely was a jag.
im a bit shocked really to be attacked like that i only asked for advice and have been nice to folk on here....really nice....no one loves the little guy like i do...and to suggest otherwise has really upset an annoyed me.....thanks for the nicer answers an support and sorry for the late reply....x

[tinkerbell23]

ps lankeele id be really interested to hear your advice...i really want to get everything right...thanks....xxxxxx

[tinkerbell23]

sorry its me again but im just really upset.....the vet commented on how "mouthy and unruly"he was.....its alot more than normal we are led to believe and hav bought lots of chew toys, teething rings, teething treats to help him...nobody loves their puppy or dog like i do for this wee guy...too much really. i live at home with my parents so hes all our dog...the rehoming and hoping i dont have kids is a little below the belt guys imsure you have all made mistakes or taken wrong advice in your lifes. im sure one day ill make a fantastic mother and im doing my best with the wee guy i have just now...for the record taking care of people and things are a big part of my life if u look over other posts im an extremely caring person, its my chosen career, and i hope noone makes any ov you feel the way that you have made me feel tonight. i wish i had never asked.

[tinkerbell23]

its me AGAIN lankeela.....i also soaked a roap toy in water and froze it as advised....i massage his gums with my finger sumtimes too.....been told in the pet shop also of a teething gel....much like a babies one i assume...what do you think .also already forgot to say to madmaggot that we had registered and paid deposit on a class and i read near enough the whole internet about his breed and puppies in general i actually think im doing well hes a clever wee soul ....thankyou..xx

i wont come back now lol...i have to drop it..xx

[woofgang]

mmmmm I'd like a few words with that vet......