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Many thanks Robinia, I do not like using pesticides unless I absolutely have to not wanting to kill the ladybirds, but when you have gone to the trouble of growing things yourself from scratch, I am going to become armed and dangerous! Yes I have the dreaded lily beetle also and go round picking them off. Not too many vine weevil thank goodness which is surprising as I have lots of tubs and containers in the summer. Anyway thanks again, I suppose its because capsid bug were not mentioned on the labels of various pest killers, I wondered if they would work on them.