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Euston to Heathrow.
Is it possible to travel to Heathrow from Euston by underground?
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The route suggested by jno is the most practical if you have luggage. The suggested change at Kings Cross is not too onerous.
The quickest almost certainly is to take the Victoria Line (southbound) to Green Park and then change to the westbound Piccadilly Line. However, the change at Green Park involves a very long underground trek. I estimate you could cover this route inside an hour with a bit of luck and a following wind.
You could also travel by Northern Line (Charing Cross Branch) southbound to Leicester Square, then Piccadilly Line Westbound. This change is also a bit cumbersome.
Routes involving the Circle Line circle are not to be recommended for two reasons:
1. They involve walking from Euston to Euston Square station (about 500 yards).
2. Recent changes to the Circle Line Service mean it is no longer possible to travel from Euston Square to the western and southern parts of the Circle Line (Paddington and beyond) without changing at Edgware Road (although it is still possible to get to Paddington by the Hammersmith and City Line).
If you are confident you know your way around you could avoid all changes by walking down Woburn Place and Tavistock Square to Russell Square Tube Station (about 700 yards). This is on the Piccadilly Line and you can get a train from there direct to Heathrow. It is probably not much quicker than the route via Green Park, though.
Taking the Heathrow Express (which means walking to Euston Square, then getting to Paddington) would probably also take about an hour. The single journey will cost between £16.50 and £23 (depending on how and where you buy the ticket) plus £4 to get from Euston Square to Paddington. The fare from central London to Heathrow wholly by tube is £4.50.
There are other alternatives but hopefully that’s enough for you to choose from!
The quickest almost certainly is to take the Victoria Line (southbound) to Green Park and then change to the westbound Piccadilly Line. However, the change at Green Park involves a very long underground trek. I estimate you could cover this route inside an hour with a bit of luck and a following wind.
You could also travel by Northern Line (Charing Cross Branch) southbound to Leicester Square, then Piccadilly Line Westbound. This change is also a bit cumbersome.
Routes involving the Circle Line circle are not to be recommended for two reasons:
1. They involve walking from Euston to Euston Square station (about 500 yards).
2. Recent changes to the Circle Line Service mean it is no longer possible to travel from Euston Square to the western and southern parts of the Circle Line (Paddington and beyond) without changing at Edgware Road (although it is still possible to get to Paddington by the Hammersmith and City Line).
If you are confident you know your way around you could avoid all changes by walking down Woburn Place and Tavistock Square to Russell Square Tube Station (about 700 yards). This is on the Piccadilly Line and you can get a train from there direct to Heathrow. It is probably not much quicker than the route via Green Park, though.
Taking the Heathrow Express (which means walking to Euston Square, then getting to Paddington) would probably also take about an hour. The single journey will cost between £16.50 and £23 (depending on how and where you buy the ticket) plus £4 to get from Euston Square to Paddington. The fare from central London to Heathrow wholly by tube is £4.50.
There are other alternatives but hopefully that’s enough for you to choose from!
Unfortunately, tambourine, the map you provided is considerably out of date. Among other things:
It shows the Jubilee Line between Green Park and Stratford as “Under Construction”. That stretch opened as long ago as 1999.
It shows the East London line as still open. The line closed temporarily in 2007 and is due to re-open later this year incorporating extensions northwards to Highbury & Islington and southwards to Crystal Palace and West Croydon.
It does not show the DLR extensions to Lewisham (1999) and Woolwich Arsenal (2009).
Most importantly as far as this question goes it does not show the changes to the Circle Line introduced last month which saw it become effectively the “Lasso” line. The service now runs from Hammersmith via Ladbroke Grove and Edgware Road, then clockwise round the circular route to terminate at Edgware Road. There the trains reverse to travel anti-clockwise and back to Hammersmith (thus calling at Edgware Road three time on each round trip).
Your map shows the DLR’s Pudding Mill Lane station as open (which it did in 1996) but does not show the DLR as serving Canning Town (which it did from 1998). So it must date from 1996-98 (The annotation “Folder 11:94”, bottom left, cannot therefore be the date of issue).
You must try to keep up, and I really must try to get out more!
It shows the Jubilee Line between Green Park and Stratford as “Under Construction”. That stretch opened as long ago as 1999.
It shows the East London line as still open. The line closed temporarily in 2007 and is due to re-open later this year incorporating extensions northwards to Highbury & Islington and southwards to Crystal Palace and West Croydon.
It does not show the DLR extensions to Lewisham (1999) and Woolwich Arsenal (2009).
Most importantly as far as this question goes it does not show the changes to the Circle Line introduced last month which saw it become effectively the “Lasso” line. The service now runs from Hammersmith via Ladbroke Grove and Edgware Road, then clockwise round the circular route to terminate at Edgware Road. There the trains reverse to travel anti-clockwise and back to Hammersmith (thus calling at Edgware Road three time on each round trip).
Your map shows the DLR’s Pudding Mill Lane station as open (which it did in 1996) but does not show the DLR as serving Canning Town (which it did from 1998). So it must date from 1996-98 (The annotation “Folder 11:94”, bottom left, cannot therefore be the date of issue).
You must try to keep up, and I really must try to get out more!
there's an up-to-date tube map here
http://www.tfl.gov.uk...standard-tube-map.gif
They've now reduced the services of the Circle and the H&C line from seven an hour to six (apparently this is supposed to be an 'improvement', for reasons I don't quite follow); along with the normal delays, that can mean very lengthy waits. The Heathrow Express is quick once you're on it (though ludicrously expensive); but it could be very slow to get to Paddington in the first place. I'd be inclined to stick with the tube. Change at King's X as I first suggested or at Green Park, but the latter involves a long walk so not great if you have luggage (there are lifts, which can be useful).
http://www.tfl.gov.uk...standard-tube-map.gif
They've now reduced the services of the Circle and the H&C line from seven an hour to six (apparently this is supposed to be an 'improvement', for reasons I don't quite follow); along with the normal delays, that can mean very lengthy waits. The Heathrow Express is quick once you're on it (though ludicrously expensive); but it could be very slow to get to Paddington in the first place. I'd be inclined to stick with the tube. Change at King's X as I first suggested or at Green Park, but the latter involves a long walk so not great if you have luggage (there are lifts, which can be useful).
I didn’t intend being rude, tambourine, just a little light hearted whilst trying to demonstrate that the information you provided was a little misleading, particularly in relation to this question.
As it happens, geek that I am, I have the full Underground and DLR map (all lines, all stations) and most of the interchange details (whether they are long, short, involve stairs, where to be on the train to arrive nearest the exit, etc.) firmly fixed in my head. This comes from a lifetime of travelling around London and the suburbs for five days of most weeks.
If you need a map (and I do not believe that it would have added anything to the answers to this question that have been provided so far) the best place to get the most up to date version is from the Transport for London website.
As it happens, geek that I am, I have the full Underground and DLR map (all lines, all stations) and most of the interchange details (whether they are long, short, involve stairs, where to be on the train to arrive nearest the exit, etc.) firmly fixed in my head. This comes from a lifetime of travelling around London and the suburbs for five days of most weeks.
If you need a map (and I do not believe that it would have added anything to the answers to this question that have been provided so far) the best place to get the most up to date version is from the Transport for London website.
I did it coming back from Canada in September as had to get a train from Euston back to Manchester.
It's a bit of a trek just to get down to the underground from some of the terminals especially if you have lots of luggage.
Make sure you avoid rush hour as well as it takes an hour so you really want to sit down and not be squashed in with your suitcase.
Changing is a pain too (and I used to take the tube to work everyday, twice a week with luggage) and my case handle went and it was a nightmare trying to get up all the steps (remember, the tube is old and has lots of steps) and drag my case through to get the other line.
It turned into a bit of a nightmare, especially after a holiday and long flight back and I'd definitely consider a more comfortable and less stilted way if I did it again.
It's a bit of a trek just to get down to the underground from some of the terminals especially if you have lots of luggage.
Make sure you avoid rush hour as well as it takes an hour so you really want to sit down and not be squashed in with your suitcase.
Changing is a pain too (and I used to take the tube to work everyday, twice a week with luggage) and my case handle went and it was a nightmare trying to get up all the steps (remember, the tube is old and has lots of steps) and drag my case through to get the other line.
It turned into a bit of a nightmare, especially after a holiday and long flight back and I'd definitely consider a more comfortable and less stilted way if I did it again.
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