3 months detention with no charge.....

[Dom Tuk]

Is that what they are proposing??. Doesn't 8 bullets in the head from close range after a surveillance operation sound the better option.

[jno]

depends which end of the gun you're on, Dom Tuk

[MargeB]

Kinshasa meets London.

[magicbeatle]

I agree with you Dom Tuk. It's a shame the police killed an innocent man but we are at war and he was a unfortunately a casualty of war. If the police suspect someone of being a terrorist, they have no other option than to shoot to kill. There is simply no other way. The public cant be put at risk just so as not to upset some people. The safety of hundreds or thousands of people are more important than the human rights act!

[MargeB]

yep yep. In fact, the police now carry special colour swatches, if you're below a certain shade of whiteness, blam blam, out come the big guns.

[metagirl]

do the swatches have anything to do with those charity wristbands? heard the different colours were given different alternative meanings.  

[MargeB]

Are we at war??????

[magicbeatle]

Dont be silly, You know what I mean. It was not a question of colour or race. I for one believe it was a genuine mistake. But let's not kid ourselves, the majority of islamic terrorists are off a certain ethnicity. Thats not being rascist, it's a fact. So therefore, others who may get shot dead in the future will also (most probably) be of that ethnicity. That dose'nt mean that the police have got it in for anyone of a particular colour or creed, it means they have got it in for terrorists who just happen (Most Probably) to be of a darker skin. Lets stop being babies about it, and show them some support. Playing the race card all the time will only hamper the police from doing their job. Let's just hope that in future they kill the right people (Whatever the colour). Seems like some of you have got it in for the police more than the terrorists.

[MargeB]

uh huh, I won't be silly then. You just caught me off guard with mention of being at war and shooting people we suspected of being terrorists. See what I'm getting at? The swatch bit was just following your train of thought.

[Zen]

The 3 months is to allow the police to make a comprehensive enquiry,the current 2 weeks is not long enough bearing in mind that enquires may involve sending officers to various countries around the world etc etc.
So said the commisioner on Channel 4 news tonight.
Only takes CSI an hour !!!!!!

[Peter Pedant]

No I think the idea Dom is to let you out after three months and not bury you.....

[ludwig]

I'm not sure what you're refering to, but I'definately take 3 months detention with no charge.

[mynaisir]

Magicbeatle, I'd argue very strongly that the police have a plethora of alternatives to shooting terrorists. Stockwell station was (from what I've been able to piece together from numerous, sometimes conflicting, news reports) an understandable reaction by police officers on the ground to flawed intelligence, suspicious behaviour and a disjointed anti-terrorism policy, in a climate of media-heightened paranoia � and, as such, unique.

Take away certain of those factors � say, if instead of de Menezes running away from the police into a Tube station, he'd lain prone on the floor and co-operated � and I'd say shooting him dead would have been an extremely bad judgment call, regardless of whether he was a suspected terrorist or not.

[Fern57]

Let's look at this from the police's point. It's 8 days after terrorists set off five bombs in London (four in tube stations), killing over 50 people. And 1 day after terrorists attempted to set of 5 bombs in London (four in tube stations) meaning to kill more people. They follow someone from a block of flats that they have under surveylance. With the jacket that he's wearing he could quite easily be concealing explosives (after all, everyone is now looking for rucksacks, and they have to get the bombs to the targets with as little suspicion as possible). He makes his way to a tube station. The police approach him. He has 2 choices. Stop or run.
So he runs, onto a tube train. The police have 2 choices. 1. Kill him now, or 2. wait until he's detonated a bomb and killed a few more people.
If the police had taken the second choice we would all be screaming 'Why didn't they shoot the b@stard?'
If you act like a terrorist expect to be treated like one.
Sometimes people make bad decisions.
In my opinion, the police didn't make a bad decision, Menezes did.

[Fern57]

ok, I was off with the number of devices. - 4 bombs (three in tube stations). Same point though

[magicbeatle]

Totaly agree with you Fern57!

[magicbeatle]

Ok mynaisir, give me some alternatives then. How would you have taken someone you believed had a bomb on them down? Bear in mind that they could detonate it and kill you and everyone about you in a split second. I am interested to hear what you would do, so come on then lets have some alternatives!