Trying to find

[caslass]

I'm trying to find details of the death of my Grandmother. Her name was Annie Watson. She was born in 1894 in Castleford it was then the west riding of Yorkshire. Her maiden name was Essler. She married Sidney ( sometimes spelt Sydney ) around June 1918. I cannot find her date of death or who her parents were. Rumour had it that she fell or jumped in the river. I don't know when but in wartime I think. Can you help

[scoobydoo2]

There is a Annie Easler on the 1901 census born at Castleford 1894c, Her father's name was Hermann, mother Alice, siblings Kathleen and Winifred. Could this be them?

[craft1948]

Annie Essler married Sidney Watson 1918 Q2 9c 246 Pontefract
As far as I can see there were 5 children
1918 Mary
1920 Thomas
1925 Alice
1926 Edward
1931 Greta
The only death I can find which would fit Annie is...
Annie Watson died aged 49 Pontefract 1943 Q3 9c 122

Annies parents and siblings were....
Herman Essler born 1863 Germany
Alice Burns born 1894 Castleford.....they married in 1890 in Castleford
All children were born in Castleford
1894 Annie
1899 Kathleen
1900 Winifred
1901 Alice
1905 Hilda
1907 Sarah
1909 Thomas

Hope this helps.....

[craft1948]

sorry...Alice Burns was born in 1872 in Castleford....

[dothawkes31]

There is a death registered at leeds in 1940 9b 663, Annie Watson aged 41. I'll check which quarter in another site, don't forget that if it was an accidental death or suicide there would have been an inquest which could delay the registration by a while/

[dothawkes31]

I'd not got that far craft, but that does look the right one you've found, right place, age etc. There would have been a coroners inquest most likely and that would have delayed registration.

[dothawkes31]

I'm bogged down in baptisms in Lincolnshire in the early 1700s and it is winding me up cos the IGI is such a vast resource but they really botched up some of the transcribing when it was put onto the database in the 1990s. i have used the actual filmed registers to get the info 20 years ago, but now trying to recheck it is like the ones I found in the actual pages never existed!

[craft1948]

In the 1891 census, which is the earliest I can find Hermann it looks like he was born in Prussia.................

[craft1948]

Hermann died in 1912 Q3 Pontefract 9c 130.

[craft1948]

Hermann Essler married Alice Burns in Pontefract Q4 9c 235 1890..........if you order this certificate it will give you their fathers' details.

[caslass]

Craft, Dot, Scooby. I thank you all so much. I was up against a brick wall. ( I am only a novice at this ) I am going to write all this down, then see where to go next. Again thank you. Craft you are as good as your word.xx

[craft1948]

Good luck cas......if you want to order certificates register here.....as long as you have the details they will cost you £7.00 each....

https://www.gro.gov.u...tificates/default.asp

[caslass]

craft are you still here I have a question

[craft1948]

go on then.....

[caslass]

i was going to question the date you gave but reading on i see you corrected it. So next question, if i subscribe to ancestry do i still have to buy certificates for more info. also where do you get your info. who do you subscribe to? Thanks craft.

[craft1948]

cas wherever you subscribe you have to pay for certificates as these are from the governments registrar's office.
I belong to 4 sites which is a bit OTT but I do family trees for people (not for money) but I do charge them for any certificates they want but it's just a hobby for me. Dot is an expert, I am not. Another very good ABer on genealogy is Barmaid.
I belong to Genes Reunited, which is a great tree builder, plus it has a good community board and chatroom...this only costs about £9.00 every 6 months for a basic membership
I also subscribe to ancestry which is my favourite as they have a lot of other peoples' family trees which tie in with mine, plus a very good filter search.
I subscribe to genealogist but am thinking of not renewing my subscription there but it is good for trawling through actual records as opposed to accepting records others have interpreted.
I also subscribe to findmypast as they are brilliant for overseas and military records and also have the 1911 census.
If I were serious at starting to research my family tree I would subscribe to Genes Reunited for actual tree building and ancestry for the research.

[caslass]

Thanks again craft you are a star. Can you tell me if it is possible to get a coroners report in to Annies death?

[dothawkes31]

Coroners reports are only kept for 30 years but the newspaper reports appear in local papers and that would be where you would need to search. Copies of local papers are held in local reference libraries and any inquest report would be indexed by surname. You could check Pontefract reference library for the newspapers that were being published in the 1940s.

[craft1948]

I think the registration district was Pontefract but think you should check the archives of your local papers in Castleford.

[caslass]

Will do that craft. Thanks again

[paul63]

Hi. Just noticed this post regarding Annie Essler who is one of my grandmothers sisters. My grandmother is Alice Essler. Her father Hermann Essler died on July 14th 1912, significantly he took his own life by hanging himself. At the time of his death he was estranged from his wife and family. This was seen as something that brought shame on the family as they were strong Roman Catholics, it seems that he was completeley disowned which I find rather sad. The informant on his death certificate was the coroner. A coroners inquest was held on 15th July 1912. Some of the details in this post have come from my mother who would have been Hermann's grand daughter. If you need to get in touch my temporary email (I will give my personal email after first contact using email below) [email protected]