I can understand you Ummmm, we all try to the best we can for our Sprogs but does she work? If not, why not? as you well know it's not the initial start of, its the running "of "as you said, can she not ask the Local Council for help? I read what you said about her Dad & falling out with him, can he not help? Like many of here If we want something, we work,save & work, I never asked my parents for help ( although they could not as they did not have the money) I had to work & work bloody hard for what i have, the thing is with parent they are too quick to help but there has to be a limit, & I honestly cannot see whats going to be the end of YOUR LIMIT. this has to be thought out very hard.