do you think corporal punishment should be re-introduced in schools ?

[johnny.5]

spare the birch spoil the child ??

[4getmenot]

no because then there would be a whole argument about if you could hit your children at home etc.

[cazzz1975]

kids need to fear something at school, we had the cane at school and it did make people behave to the point that they rarely had to use.

[cazzz1975]

use it


sorry I submitted too early

[jno]

yes, teach the little blighters that the best way to get your point across is physical violence, particularly against someone smaller than yourself. This is what made Britain great.

[cazzz1975]

isolation is a good punishment though, most of the messing around is done to impress friends, stick them in isolation doing work and its soon stops being fun

[China Doll]

Sure.

On other peoples children.

[johnny.5]

i have 5 children all of school age
and if they are naughty enough to deserve the cane then they should have it
and when they come home and they even dare tel me
then its extra chores and earluy to bed with no priviledges

Am I right ?
I'm not wrong !

[China Doll]

You'd let a five year old be canned by someone who is essentially a stranger to you so you can't even begin to predict their level of self control let alone more worryingly if they actually are aroused by violence on small children? (Such instances exist).

Well you're clearly not right.

[lslowry]

Most of all my teachers fought in the second world war, they were crack shots with the blackboard rubber aimed at the head, and equally at home with the cane, but even so we had respect for them, and wouldn't dream of doing what the young ones today do in the classroom. If the kids don't respect their own parents what chance do the teachers have? I don't think that bringing it back would solve the problem, because the problem starts in the home.

[ummmm]

My kids wouldn't dare disrespect me...put it that way.

[4getmenot]

But you only had respect for them because if you didnt you'd get the cane. I didnt have the cane at school but I still had respect for my teachers because thats the way I wsa brought up.

[johnny.5]

china it probably does or did exist
but it would be a gradual system where the more senior the pupil the more severe the punishment
a five year old may be given lines for exxample whereas a teenager the cane or slipper

[boxtops]

I agree with 4get and lslowry, life was different then. I never got caned (or the girls got slippered) but I stood in the corner a good few times. We respected the teachers and our parents and policemen - etc etc - because we were told we should, and they had authority. Youngsters are very hot on telling us they know their rights - but as OH always responds, rights come with responsibilities...

[4getmenot]

its because things are too PC nowadays and children know alot more about it all and how much the school teachers are allowed to do.

[Mosaic]

You might as well ask if nine-year-olds should work down mines again. Support it or not, it ain't ever gonna happen, our society has moved on. The productive debate is, should schools be allowed to permanently expel pupils who will not cooperate.

[China Doll]

School age starts at five (or in my case four due to my date of birth). What you're suggesting is legislating levels of violence. A five year old with mental health issues can be more trying and equally as hard to deal with as a cheeky twelve year old who just likes to answer back but is essentially harmless.

I agree with 4getmenot, respect begins at home. I was never canned but I never would never have been violence or disrespectful to the degree that some kids can be these days because a) it's not in my nature due to how I was raised and b) the home reprecussions would have been devastating!

[rowanwitch]

save corporal punishment for consenting adults... with appropriate safe words of course

withdrawing games/tv or other privileges in the home, not allowing attendance at fun activities trips, school parties, etc and isolation from peers in school