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anotheoldgit | 15:52 Tue 27th Apr 2010 | News
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Should this Tory candidate have been suspended as a member of the conservative party for making what have been described as offensive gay comments?

/// Mr Lardner wrote: "With experience as a teacher and a believer in parental rights and responsibilities, as your MP I will support the rights of parents and teachers to refuse to have their children taught that homosexuality is 'normal' behaviour or an equal lifestyle choice to traditional marriage.///

Have we now lost our right of opinion and free speech?
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McMouse - that is because your rights and freedoms are enshrined in law and because you suffer no real discrimination solely based upon your sexuality !
Thank you jack... sometimes I feel it's nice to have a chance to speak for the quiet majority of lesbians and gays who tend to get lumped in with the vocal majority... I feel I have nothin in common with the characters the media pick out to represent us...
sorry I meant vocal minority...
I've long since put down my banners and placards and picked up my 'sensible shoes' :D
McMouse

Straight people shout their sexual preferences all the time.

A group of lads chatting up girls on a Friday night are doing this.

When a chap says to his colleague how much he fancies Megan Fox, he's shouting his sexual preference.

When a couple are leaving a train, and she gives him a peck on the cheek, they're shouting their sexual preferences.

When a a couple of girls flick through to 'Torso Of The Week' in Heat magazine, and have a sly ogle at Taylor Lautner, they're shouting their sexual preferences.

When a straight couple get married, they're shouting their sexual preferences.

Goes on all the time, but it's not noticed...because it goes on all the time.
No we haven't lost sight of the right of opinion and free speech.

The rights of parents and teachers to prefer bigotry to the evidence and say that homosexuality is wrong is not lost. However these people deny the rights of others to present the facts about homosexuality. In doing so they alienate a significant percentage of human beings who instinctively have a different inclination from the masses.

Lardner is applauding the right to supress free speech for the favour of laws supposedly framed by an ethereal, bad tempered deity for stone age goat herders.

We have no alternative but to bring both sides of the debate to the public. Ultimately the argument, "God said so" is unsustainable and humanity will move on to basing our judgement on a sophisticated sense of morality that reflects a deeper comprehension what it means to be human.
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sp1814

Never seen a heterosexual rights march.
AOG - See my first answer on this page; that would be why heterosexuals DON'T need to march............
You haven't even looked for it.
They even call it The Wedding March.
Beso

Blinding answer at 11:01am.

Virtually unanswerable.

I doff my cap.
http://en.wikipedia.o...g_March_(Mendelssohn)

written in 1842 I'm sure we've come a way since then.......
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sp1814

/// Virtually unanswerable. ///

I don't think so.

Gay Pride March : are events celebrating lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) culture. The events also at times serve as demonstrations for legal rights such as same-sex marriage.

The Wedding March : British. brides have for long favoured entry into the church to the strains of Wagner's Lohengrin and exit to the wedding march which is the 6th no. of Mendelssohn's incidental music. to Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream.

Slight difference don't you think?
*applause*

Even by his standards, staggering.
anotheoldgit

You haven't answered Beso's point. It was brilliantly made and succinctly put.

A wedding march is is another form of rights march. There are rights and duties tied up with getting married.

I'd leave this one if I were you.
No difference at all.

Whether the march of the nuptuals or the march of the newlyweds, marriage is a celebration of heterosexuality. The ritual consecrators remind us marriage is "a union between a woman and a man".

Indeed, these words constitute part of the mandatory phrasing in a civil union in Australia (at least) and form the gulf of the difference between sophisticated humanist concepts of marriage and the trite bigoty of the church.
this all sounds somewhat similar to the years old debate about sex education being taught in schools

many were of the ridiculous opinion that merely informing kids about the facts and insuring they knew the truth would somehow encourage them too have sex so should be banned

as has been proved, kids were and alwys will have sex regardless of what theyre taught, but this way they knew how to protect themselves and knew the facts

so whats the difference here? teaching kids about homosexuality is not promoting it or making them gay...it just educating them ...why is that bad?
It's not...

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