On who's side are you?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.express.co...e-we-were-on-holiday-

To all those that say "Immigration enriches the quality of life in the UK" I say this "would you still harbor the same thoughts if you came back from holiday and found your house inhabited by migrants?

Before you condemn the house owner for going on holiday and leaving his house un-protected.

Or feel sorry for these immigrants, because they have no where else to live, then blame the government for not looking after them.

Or blaming capitalism for allowing some to own their own property, while others have none.

I say this, "the house owners name was Mr Abu-Taher Ahmed"

Mmmmn!! Tough one this, who's side are you going to take?

[sp1814]

This question is poorly conceived.

It's like saying, "Do you think that having a banking system is a good thing or a bad thing" to someone who's mortgage payments have just been raised.

Silly question, badly phrased.

[rojash]

"every crime committed by an immigrant to this country, would be one less if he or she had not been admitted into this country in the first place"
and every crime committed by a British citizen, would be one less if they hadn''t been born. Perhaps as wells immigration controls, we should also institute reproduction controls.

[Zeuhl]

and every medical intervention and surgical procedure carried out by an immigrant to this country, would be one less if he or she had not been admitted into this country in the first place.
etc etc etc yawn.

I understand medical authorities in Wales are concerned that without their usual recruitment of Commonwealth citizens they will run dangerously short of GPs.

[sp1814]

It's a poorly thought-out post.

AOG - recently you've gone off the boil.

Your question is the equivalent of posting "After seeing what Harold Shipman did to his patients, can we possibly say that doctors are a good thing?"

Whilst we appreciate arguing against the more rabid propositions your put forward, we find it difficult to argue when your points are...for want of a better word...mental.

[sherminator]

AOG sigh lets make it really simple....

Britain NEEDS immigration (doctors nurses etc) so we allow immigration to happen.
We can never tell exactly that we are letting in brilliant worky worker bees EVERY time.
So just like you could gather up 1000 British and most of them would be decent upsatanding citizens some will be evil grotbag scum that you wouldnt want in the country! -Exactly the same as with immigration.

[anotheoldgit]

jno

/// Perhaps we should just remember that it is in the interests fo chief constables to show crime soaring relentlessly. ///

Where did you get this questionable fact from?

Surely they are forever monitored on keeping the crime figures down, their very job depends on it.

[anotheoldgit]

sherminator

/// Britain NEEDS immigration (doctors nurses etc) so we allow immigration to happen.
We can never tell exactly that we are letting in brilliant worky worker bees EVERY time.///

That same old worn out excuse, when one dares to question the effects of mass immigration on an indigenous population.

Most likely we do need to attract immigrants of certain skills, but surely it is very easy to check the credentials of those seeking to fill these positions.

We do not have to let in the dregs of the world, to fulfil our lack of skilled persons.

[anotheoldgit]

rojash

/// every crime committed by a British citizen, would be one less if they hadn''t been born. Perhaps as wells immigration controls, we should also institute reproduction controls. ///

Do you actually read through your answers before you post them?

I have copied and pasted this latest gem of reasoning, for you and others to read through again.

[sherminator]

'We do not have to let in the dregs of the world, to fulfil our lack of skilled persons.'
But thats just it!!
Who picks all our potatoes now? who works in all our nursing homes?
immigrants that WANT to work! (we could have a different argument about how we get our work shy to do these jobs but thats a diff story)
so when you have these jobs which arent skilled its a lot easier to let the bad eggs in?
also im not saying that thisrepresents a lot of society but anyone can come here with good intentions and find themselves down and out becuase of external circumstances- the company you came over to work for goes under etc and then you have people who came to work facing poverty in a different country and then they are desperate!

Heres a differnt view- IF it was that easy to fix our own problems why would any Prime Minister let lots of immigration happen? its always going to be unpopular!
(no disrepsect) but I think your looking at this in a very simplistic manner!

[webbo3]

according to this the house needs to be EMPTY, in other words unoccupied, or anyone to go shopping and find squatters in their house let alone a 2 week or few day break.

scroll down to how do i do it.

http://squat.net/archiv/squatbook1/index.html


I would'nt even bother with the police, i pop to the local rugby club put £250 behind the bar and let the boys do the work, Im sure a polite conversation with the front row would encourage them to leave.


Dave.