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1 Welcome them.
2 Wary of them.
3 Turn them away.
4 Deport those who have demonstrated against western culture.
Knowing that given the opportunity and the means (getting away with it) they'll cut your head off.
It's their religion, it's their way of life. Must convert or kill the infidel.
They despise our civilisation so why are they here?
do you suppose it's for any other reason than to create an Islamic state here?
I mean that seriously.
They breed like rabbits.
We are at war with them yet we permit hundreds (maybe more) to take legitimate residence here every year, would Churchill have welcomed Germans into this country during WW2 and allow them to occupy prominent positions in society?
Political madness.
2 Wary of them.
3 Turn them away.
4 Deport those who have demonstrated against western culture.
Knowing that given the opportunity and the means (getting away with it) they'll cut your head off.
It's their religion, it's their way of life. Must convert or kill the infidel.
They despise our civilisation so why are they here?
do you suppose it's for any other reason than to create an Islamic state here?
I mean that seriously.
They breed like rabbits.
We are at war with them yet we permit hundreds (maybe more) to take legitimate residence here every year, would Churchill have welcomed Germans into this country during WW2 and allow them to occupy prominent positions in society?
Political madness.
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These are hugely sweeping generalisations, based on extremist views. I know many Muslims both in the UK and outside, who don't try to convert anyone - co-existence is perfectly acceptable to most ordinary peace-loving Muslims - and who have restricted their family to two or three children, the same as many other families. There are enough people already in the UK with multiple children, many with different fathers (and I accept that this is also a generalisation) but you wouldn't find that in the Muslim community, multiple children would at least have the same father. Muslims have been in this country - trading if not resident - for hundreds of years. It says nothing in the Koran about killing "the infidel" other than in defence of their own faith. Germans are a race from Germany, Muslims are found in society worldwide, there are many German Muslims. The adjective "Muslim" these days is too pejorative, it has to be tacked in wherever it will inflame - you don't see "Jewish burglar" in the newspapers.
Britain accepted the Jews in the pogroms, would you have felt the same about them, then?
Do you actually know any Muslims personally? - I do, and Jews, and Jains, and Buddhists, as well as some Christians, and many people who have no faith at all.
Britain accepted the Jews in the pogroms, would you have felt the same about them, then?
Do you actually know any Muslims personally? - I do, and Jews, and Jains, and Buddhists, as well as some Christians, and many people who have no faith at all.
Accurate? 3% of the population are "registered", but how many are "illegal immigrants? and this could well add another 2%.
Most Muslims are law abiding, but the Muslim Extremist pose a problem for the well being of innocent people and cannot be ignored. One can deport the known extremists, but it is covert Islamic Extremism that worries me.
Muslims in my opinion do want to convert the UK to Islam.
Most Muslims are law abiding, but the Muslim Extremist pose a problem for the well being of innocent people and cannot be ignored. One can deport the known extremists, but it is covert Islamic Extremism that worries me.
Muslims in my opinion do want to convert the UK to Islam.
Can we liken it, thought, to when the British Imperialists went into Africa and India, and saw the society there, and immediately started to convert everyone to Christianity, as being a "better way of living", whether the residents liked it or not? I can see it this way - traditional Muslim (and Christian, and Jewish) beliefs are for the family and bringing up children to lead a good life, and indeed to love your neighbour. Given the state of some of the youth (and indeed some adult irresponsibility too) in the UK today, I can see why relgious groups of all sort might suggest that these principles are lacking and need some attention.
Boxtops....that was then and this is now.
History and indeed the present time has suggested that "the love thy neighbour concept" is not necessarily achieved by religious beliefs...............religion has a particularly bad "track record" for achieving this lovingly love thy neighbour concept.
I have Muslim and Jewish who in isolation are law abiding people and good company, but as they aggregate and this swells to a large group or indeed community, especially if they do not intend to integrate, than their neighbourly and loving attitude, seem to change. This is of course a generalisation.
History and indeed the present time has suggested that "the love thy neighbour concept" is not necessarily achieved by religious beliefs...............religion has a particularly bad "track record" for achieving this lovingly love thy neighbour concept.
I have Muslim and Jewish who in isolation are law abiding people and good company, but as they aggregate and this swells to a large group or indeed community, especially if they do not intend to integrate, than their neighbourly and loving attitude, seem to change. This is of course a generalisation.
Boxtops:
" It says nothing in the Koran about killing "the infidel" other than in defence of their own faith."
(Koran 9:5), and that peace will come only to those who submit to him (Koran 8:17, 48:29, and 65). The Koran also has Allah saying that unbelievers should be killed (Koran 2:191, 3:141, 4:104, 4:89, 8:12-16, 9:5, 9:73-74, 9:123, 25:52…), that Muslim apostates should be killed or chastised (Koran 2:39, 2:85, 3:85, 3:106, 4:89, 16:106, and 47:25-28), that the heads and fingers of unbelievers should be cut off (Koran 5:33, 8:12, and 47:4), and that Muslims should fight and humiliate Jews and Christians (Koran 5:18 and 9:29).
Cut and pasted, not my research.
Squd, I'm far from claiming to be an expert in this area. Yes, I do tend to pontificate - especially after a little libation.
" It says nothing in the Koran about killing "the infidel" other than in defence of their own faith."
(Koran 9:5), and that peace will come only to those who submit to him (Koran 8:17, 48:29, and 65). The Koran also has Allah saying that unbelievers should be killed (Koran 2:191, 3:141, 4:104, 4:89, 8:12-16, 9:5, 9:73-74, 9:123, 25:52…), that Muslim apostates should be killed or chastised (Koran 2:39, 2:85, 3:85, 3:106, 4:89, 16:106, and 47:25-28), that the heads and fingers of unbelievers should be cut off (Koran 5:33, 8:12, and 47:4), and that Muslims should fight and humiliate Jews and Christians (Koran 5:18 and 9:29).
Cut and pasted, not my research.
Squd, I'm far from claiming to be an expert in this area. Yes, I do tend to pontificate - especially after a little libation.
"You don't see "Jewish burglar" in the newspapers."
No, you don't. In fact, if asked to name a British Jewish criminal the only name I could come up with would be Fagin, and he was fictitious. By and large the Jewish people work for what they have, look after the less fortunate members of their community and are grateful to the host nation for affording them refuge in times of persecution, whose standards and mores they accept while feeling free to practise their own in relative privacy. When did you last see a Jewish demonstration on the streets of Britain? You simply cannot compare Islam and Judaism.
No, you don't. In fact, if asked to name a British Jewish criminal the only name I could come up with would be Fagin, and he was fictitious. By and large the Jewish people work for what they have, look after the less fortunate members of their community and are grateful to the host nation for affording them refuge in times of persecution, whose standards and mores they accept while feeling free to practise their own in relative privacy. When did you last see a Jewish demonstration on the streets of Britain? You simply cannot compare Islam and Judaism.
There are good and bad in all walks of life. I have lived in Muslim Countries. I abide by their laws, eat their food, dress modest (women) and had to speak their language ie Arabic etc. When they come here, WE have to change our way of life to please them. You have to be careful what you say or do or you are branded a Racist. Not all are bad, but when I see them protesting at home coming parades I just get so angry.
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