Should an adulterous ex-con REALLY be so worried about letting gay couples into his home?

[sp1814]

Is it really his kids who he's worried about?

What does he think might happen?

http://www.dailymail....uples-visit-home.html

[R1Geezer]

who can say, any psychologist will explain that individual feelings tend to be overridden by the common purpose in crowd situations. That's why normally sensible people get involed in football violence for example.

[ummmm]

You obviously live in a different world to me.

I don't know anyone into football violence that wasn't already a thug.

[vulcan]

R1Geezer has a valid point, peer pressure is am amazing thing. My neighbours grandson often visits him and occasionally the lad and I chat over the fence about cars, motor bikes, school etc. He is a polite, friendly boy. A few months ago a group of lads from a nearby town paid us a visit and started throwing stones at a few houses, mine included. Who was at the front of this crowd ? my young friend.

[sp1814]

R1Geezer

You wrote:

"I agree with most of what you say sp but are we to sacrifice today's children to "progress?"

It's not like there are hundreds of thousands of same-sex couples waiting to adopt children. The figures are miniscule.

When I was growing up, the idea of a mixed race couple was taboo. Now it's an irrelevence. Furthermore back in the 70s, I remember bi-racial kids being a novelty (but not bullied).

Now look at where we are - there are many bi-racial celebrities and successful members of society...I don't see them as being sacrificial lambs.

The same may very well be said of children of same-sex parents in years to come.

[anotheoldgit]

I notice you are not adverse at using the Daily Mail when it fits your criteria.

The council should be ashamed of themselves for preventing some children from having the opportunity of enjoying the love of a family.

[sp1814]

AOG

I always use the Daily Mail nowadays - it means I can't be accused of using some left-wing rag to support my argument.

[jno]

funny, I got through childhood - and indeed my whole life - without joining any baying mobs. jno jnr has so far managed the same. I expect ummmm's kids are the same too. Maybe we should all go out baying for tolerance together.

[youngmafbog]

Its the pack mentality Ummmm. And yes it does happen, maybe not in your closeted world it doesnt but out in the wider big bad world it does. Its also called peer pressure.

[youngmafbog]

SP, to answer your question.

Its in his belief, he cannot see (rightly or wrongly) how a gay couple can properly bring up a chlid. does seem a bit pot/kettle/black in this case though !

I wonder what would be the reation to a muslim saying this? Afterall they depsise homosexulas to the nth degree. We never seem to get the lefties on this site maoning about them do we ?

[ummmm]

I don't live in a closeted world...far from it.

[jackthehat]

This is about a specific news item, youngmafbog, not some nebulous anti-muslim rant.....

[sp1814]

youngmafbog

Ah but there's the pickle...you know how Muslims are supposed to be as 'anti-gay' as Christians? Well, the weird thing is - whenever you read about someone having a beef about the gays...it's always the Christians.

If it's not Christian registrars refusing to perform civil ceremonies, it Christian B&B owners refusing to let gay couples stay at their holiday homes.

And if it's not that, it's Christian foster parents not wanting gay couples in their homes.

I mean, I'm sure there ARE Muslims who are as bigoted as their Christian equivalents...but for the life of me, the only story I can remember recently is the one about the school iibrary that was forced to remove books which depicted same sex marriages as 'normal' and unfortunately for your argument - the Christians were up there with the Muslims on that one too!

[R1Geezer]

there may be intollerence of banditry in christianity SP, but at least their standard "punishment" falls short of the Muslim approach, ie death!

[joeluke]

Children should be brought up to know the difference between right and wrong

Nuff said

[sp1814]

R1Geezer

No Muslims have killed any gay men or lesbians in the UK.

Only non-Muslims.

We're talking about the UK here, aren't we?

[sp1814]

R1Geezer

Hang on a second...it's not only Muslim states which have the death penalty for gays.

Malawi for instance - chief religion...guess what it is...go on...

Furthermore, Turkey's main religion is Islam, but they DON'T have the death penalty for homosexuals.

So...

[boxtops]

There are Muslim gay people too, come to mention it, and they have a dreadful time of it - I know of more than one gay young man who married just because that was the cultural expectation of his family, and couldn't live with the lie. He didn't come out for years - the sin he felt he was committing was too hard to live with. (This is nothing to do with the OP but it happens.)
Re the OP - my view is that the vicar is being selective with his views and behaviour and as others say, ignoring his own transgressions. What was it in the Bible about removing the mote from your own eye, so you can see others more clearly?

[sp1814]

Absolutely - selective Christianity...!