is this a goal or not ?????

[brian j john]

well is it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObGjcLFLZHY

[bibblebub]

yes 'tis

[Buenchico]

We're not told the circumstances.

The fact that no players seem to have entered the box as the ball was played, as would normally happen with a penalty, suggests that the penalty might have been taken when full-time had been reached but the referee (in accordance with the rules) permitted a penalty to be taken before ending the match.

If so, it's definitely NOT a goal, since the ball must cross the line DIRECTLY as a result of the kick. If, after being parried by the goal keeper (or after being deflected by a post) the wind or the spin on the ball then causes it to change course and cross the line, no goal can be awarded because the match automatically ended (irrespective of whether the referee blew his whistle or otherwise signalled full time) at the point when the ball ceased to be heading goalwards as a DIRECT result of the kick being taken,

Chris
(Class 1 ref)

[brian j john]

here's what happened , but the video link link won't play that's why i copied and pasted it in question

[Everhelpful]

Chris is right.

[brian j john]

sorry here's the link

http://uk.eurosport.y...-sport/article/22038/

[T&S]

I believe it was during a penalty shootout so no other players were in the penalty box. The goal should stand.

[bibblebub]

the ref gave it as a goal and so it's a goal

[redman41]

Having watched the Video I agree with the Referee as regards awarding a Goal.
Goalie was a bit of a daft beggar to say the least.

[campbellking]

Chris is showing his age. There's no such thing as a 'Class one' ref any more as we all got rebranded into 'Levels', ranging from one to 7.He would need to be on the National list to be a Level 1.
Having said that, his answer is correct (and comprehensive and helpful, as he always is).
A Mere Level 7 referee.

[Buenchico]

Yes I am showing my age, Campbellking. If I was still refereeing it would be interesting to know what my current grading would be. I have got a '3 lions' referee's badge from international duty but it was only as 4th official at U-15 level (England v France at Bramall Lane).

Chris

[wilkesneil]

this penalty was in a shoot out and i believe it was in sudden death which the keeper lost 7-6.
as he's saved the ball the ball doesn't actually come a dead ball as there is still momentum in the ball, the referee was right to allow this as a goal as the ball spun back towards the goal after the keeper saved it. to be honest any keeper i know would have got up to make sure it didn't happen and would have just kicked the ball away.

[DrFilth]

that will teach him to wait for the final whistle :)