Are some people for real??

[squarebear]

Media Watchdogs are having to investigate the Derren Brown Show where he apparently tied a member of the public up in a strait jacket on a railway line and tricked them into thinking a train was coming after receiving complaints from the public!!!
http://news.uk.msn.co...-documentid=154682834

You've got to be kidding me. It was only a trick. I saw Paul Daniels saw a woman in half but I didn't ring in asking about the woman's wellbeing! Some people are stupid beyond belief.

[joggerjayne]

Actually, EDDIE, I don't think his "hypnosis" subjects are actors.

In his book "Tricks Of The Mind" DB explains about hypnosis, and how it does not actually involve putting people in a "trance", but rather uses elements of confusion and suggestibility.

I think those people are real, but not "hypnotised" in the conventional sense.

[ludwig]

//he was appearing on a magic show and would obvioulsy not be put in any real danger. //

Obviously Squarebear, but if he had been conned into believing that he WAS in danger, through hypnosis or through some kind of trick where they pretended something had gone wrong with the trains brakes or whatever, then that's a bit of a nasty thing to do to someone I would have thought.

[squarebear]

It's also nasty to throw people off a high platform into water but that's what happens on "101 Ways To Leave A Gameshow". These people volunteer and must surely know what they are getting themselves into.

If I were to volunteer for a Derren Brown show, I would imagine he would be putting me through something fairly shocking, as would the viewers at home.

[ludwig]

You're missing the point. You know exactly the type of thing going to happen to you on 101 ways..and you know you're not going to be in danger.

If they hypnotised everyone on that show to make them think the water had been drained from the pool, and then threw them off, that would be the equivalent scenario.

I didn't see the program - for me the off button comes into play when I hear the words 'and now the Derren Br..' I never hear the 'own'. I'm onto the remote like a rat up a drainpipe.

[squarebear]

To me this is like going to a Chubby Brown concert and then complaining because you found him rude. The people who go on the Derren Brown show know they are going to be in for a shock.

[ludwig]

Yes, they know they're in for a shock but they don't go along thinking 'Hey this is exciting - I may actually die tonight - cool !!'.

I'm not too worried about the audience - none of them would ever have thought that for one second that a person was going to be killed for their entertainment - of course not.
It's the bloke on the railway track I'm concerned about. If he actually thought he was in danger for whatever reason, then I think that's a bit dodgy.

[squarebear]

If he thought he was in genuine danger after volunteering for a magic trick, he shouldn't have been let out of the house on his own and certainly shouldn't have volunteered.

[ludwig]

..and that's surely why 11 people would have complained - not because they thought the bloke was ever in any danger, or because their Uncle Dave was run over by a train, but because of the thought that some poor sap was being put through considerable mental anguish for the entertainment of others.

[ludwig]

//If he thought he was in genuine danger after volunteering for a magic trick, he shouldn't have been let out of the house on his own and certainly shouldn't have volunteered. //

Yes, that all makes sense in the Paul Daniels 'I'd like a volunteer to saw in half by feeding them through this big jigsaw' scenario. Obviously he's isn't, and you'd have to be insane to think that was his intention.

But if halfway through the act Daniels started running around screaming to bring the curtains down and cut the power and frantically clawing at the box and security people came running on and generally doing whatever else they needed to do, to convince you that something horrible had gone wrong and you were now in genuine danger..
that wouldn't be part of any 'Magic trick' would it? - it would just be a bit of a nasty hoax to put you through.

[DEN53]

To be honest I watched that Derren Brown show last week, and also felt uneasy about the straight jacket, rail lines stunt. I thought it was well out of order. I half expected to read in the Daily Mail the same week, that someone had copied that very stunt.

[squarebear]

Going off track here but I agree with Eddie. When he did his "event" which was supposed to glue you to your chair, I know of nobody at all who this worked on apart from his stooges in the studio audience.

His roulette prediction saw him lose £5000 at the roulette wheel. Jeez! I could do that.

[sara3]

ludwig, I'm with you. the man in question certainly looked terrified.

[ludwig]

Thankyou sara. That's all I'm saying - if the man was terrified, then the man was terrified. It doesn't matter whether we all new it was fake or not.

Anyone remember when Beadle pushed that bloke's van into a harbour and he thought he'd lost all his business stock? Funny for us perhaps but not for him. The poor s0d nearly had a heart attack.

[bednobs]

derren brown and the people that watch it are all great big wangs

[mazie]

what's a Wang?

[squarebear]

Mazie, it's a slang term for a pen1s.

I remember the Jeremy Beadle prank, as well as countless "Candid Camera" and "You've Been Framed" stunts. The TV viewer gets enjoyment from watching other people's misfortunes and so these types of show are popular. To complain about it afterwards is ridiculous.

[naomi24]

I hate practical jokes, especially anything that worries the fall guy, like some of those Beadle used to do. Not funny!