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yes i looked at the link that you sent jackthehat it was very helpful i am thinking of takeing that a bit futher and enqwiering about what they have to offer. and i must say dzug2 i will not end up dead, i have some were to go and good people to stay with, they know me very well and know i will do my share and anything i am asked of so long as i have a roof over my head away from my mum then i am happy :-) xxx