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Innovation | 14:57 Mon 06th Dec 2010 | News
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Why are the police allowed to film students at demonstrations? They then cover themselves with riot gear, attack them with batons and are never identified.

Also, when they kill someone, why does that person always have some strange disease and would have died in a weeks time anyway?
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To name and shame I would hope. Or to protect themselves if someone says the police had beaten them.
Thery are allowed to film because they are in a public place. They do film to identify trouble makers and look out for them next time.

The police are supposed to wear visible identification numbers, but there have certainly been instances of them being covered up recently. Although with demonstrators increasing filming on their phones, any police misbehaviour soon ends up on YouTube and the bad Apple identified.

As for all victims having fatal diseases, that bit isn't true.
Is it any wonder that the police are not respected, with persons such as Innovation going around publishing untrue and ridiculous generalisations such as these about them.
The activists have responded to police filming them by doing exactly the same. So now we have tit for tat.
How SHOULD the police deal with violent protestors?
I am not trying to detract from your point, but I am interested to hear thoughts....
Adding to this: ..and why are we no longer permitted to film/photograph them doing this ?
/// ridiculous generalisations /// ..and of course AOG you *never* do such a thing :-/
It is now illegal, under spurious Anti Terrorism Laws, to photograph a policeman. It won't be long before phones are taken off demonstrators and the public, to stop these inconvenient videos appearing on YouTube.
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Jd, you're assuming the protestors are violent. It's the police who are out of control and answerable to no one.

How should we deal with the police running amok and attacking everyone in their sight?
//It's the police who are out of control and answerable to no one.//

Simply not true is it ?
Like I said, I didnt want to ditract from the point you have raised. But there comes a time when protestors DO become unmanagable to the extent that somebody will get hurt, property will get damaged etc... I am all for justified, peacefully staged demonstrations but take the latest student rioting, wheteher or not it was intended, it got out of hand not because they felt threatned by the police presence but because a percentage wanted to forcefully get their message across. How do we manage these people? All the training for verbal conflict management goes out the window, these protestors know the volitility of the situation that they volunteer to get involved with. I have no sympathy to violent and/or destructive people. It is innocent by-standers and peaceful protestors who become involved I feel for....
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Terrific posts Birdie - innovation's spurious attempt has been well and truly debunked.
jd_1984

/// How SHOULD the police deal with violent protestors?
I am not trying to detract from your point, but I am interested to hear thoughts.///

May I suggest the 'water cannon'?

Why we don't make use of this in this country, I just don't know...
The manner in which the above question has been framed does not deserve a sensible response. The poster is clearly demented.
The poster likes to strike a particular 'pose' or attitude' in his threads.

If you are intent on answering, fair enough, but don't trouble yourself particularly about either the original question or any additional comments he makes.
Innovation - aren't you glad you weren't injured by the fire hydrant thrown over the top of a multi-storey.
I think they do a wonderful job and stay out of the limelight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCZA2uO-nZI

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