Why only the Daily Mail?

[anotheoldgit]

http://tinyurl.com/293ub9n

Having read a Daily Mail link supplied by another ABer , I did a Google search to try and get another National Newspaper's report on it, but surprise, surprise I could not find one.

The question I wish to ask is why, isn't this disturbing report important enough to be reported by them?

[Gromit]

Sorry to disappoint you AOG. This is not a Daily Mail scoop, they nicked it from the Daily Express who had it first

http://www.express.co...nding-Christmas-evil-

Whatever. Both have done a fantastic job (and yourself AOG) in nationaly publicising an obscure campaign. The makers of the must be ecstastic at the extra publicity they are getting.

The Jahovah's Witnesses follow a similar line every year pointing out the hypocrisy and promiscurity (in their eyes) of Christmas, and yet, they unluckily do not get AOGs free publicity.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

///.and the rest of will just shrug our shoulders and get on with our day.///

That is called apathy.

One doesn't have to be a devout or even a practising Christian to be offended over this issue.

We are (as much as you may dislike it) a Christian country, whose whole structure is foundered on Christian beliefs, and as such should be shown the same respect that others wish their religions to be shown.

[jake-the-peg]

Insulting a religion is not against the law AOG.

Please show me instances of charges being brought for insulting Islam

[standian]

A freudian slip AOG sometimes it can seem as though the western world has foundered on the rocks of Christianity Both Bush and Blair hid behind the shield of Christianity when their cunning plans went pear shaped and their evidence proved bogus Religion like patriotism hijacked as the last refuge of scoundrels

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// Sorry to disappoint you AOG. This is not a Daily Mail scoop, they nicked it from the Daily Express who had it first ///

Sorry to disappoint you again, you are continuing to make yourself look rather silly in your anti Daily Mail campaign.

Daily Mail December 22, 2010

Daily Express.Thursday December 23,2010

Don't you think also that they do not require the publicity from myself or the press, those areas in London, Cardiff, Birmingham and Derby where these posters have been put up will give them all the publicity they need, and that is my concern.

I myself don't mind giving free publicity out, if only to wake up the apathetic.

Regarding this lack of concern, it seems funny that when right wing groups protest, all the lefties are soon out giving them plenty of publicity.

[boxtops]

If the aspects the poster-makers are complaining about is the commercialism and people drinking far too much - excess in general - then many might agree that they have a point, Christmas has lost its religious centre. However, Muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet (but not that he's a direct son of God) so they are not denying his birth, the article seems to be saying that it's all the glitter and excess we've now made of this annual bash which is a bad thing. Many would agree.

[anotheoldgit]

/// Religion like patriotism hijacked as the last refuge of scoundrels ///

Similar quotes such as this, just like the word Racist are now wearing rather thin, in fact they have now lost all meaning.

On AB, where it seems there are very little religious beliefs only Islam, and very few Patriots.

Alas England as we once knew it, is no longer.

[anotheoldgit]

boxtops

Oh so you are quite prepared to bow down to Islam and take their criticism right or wrong on the chin are you?

All this from a totally none tolerant religion that disallows any criticism shown against their religion whatsoever?

Un-level playing field once again it seems.

[boxtops]

I don't see it like that AOG - if there are people with strong Christian beliefs, they just choose not to get drawn into the coversations. Not everyone nails their banner to one of several masts, people shouldn't have to defend their own faiths and beliefs to others on here.
I do like your avatar, though ;-)

[boxtops]

...and to your last response - no, not at all, you are misunderstanding me. Christian people who choose to respect the birth of Jesus just do so quietly and get on with it -IMO - they don't go round banner-waving outside the pubs and the shopping centres complaining that it's all excessive.

[askyourgran]

I haven't bothered to read it all AOG. It only gets me hopping mad. Ignorant barstewards.

[Gromit]

Granted the message of the poster is a load of religious b0llocks, but which of the 'days of christmas' messages do yo agree or disagree with?

Days of Christmas:
Sexually Transmitted Disease
Debt
Rape
Teenage pregnancy
Abortion
Raves
Claiming God Has A Son
Blasphemy
Exploitation
Promiscuity
Night Clubs
Crime
Paedophilia
Paganism
Domestic Violence
Homelessness
Alcohol
Drugs...

http://www.xmasisevil.com/index2.php

[anotheoldgit]

boxtops Thanks for the compliment regarding my avatar, I have had it for about a 2 weeks now.

Can't quite see where you are coming from with this,

/// they don't go round banner-waving outside the pubs and the shopping centres complaining that it's all excessive.///

It is not the Christian people who are waving banners, it is the Muslims who are sticking up anti Christmas posters, all over ethnic minority areas of London, Cardiff, Birmingham and Derby.

[boxtops]

AOG, you asked me if I was going to lie down and take this extremism - the answer is no, but this is not a major protest, it's a small group who's been picked up by the press yet again. Most of us treat it as it's deserved - I don't either care for the stuff listed in Gromit's list. The only one where Christians differ from Muslims is believing that Jesus is the son of God, which Muslims don't believe - and that's up to them it's their religion, lots of non-Muslims don't believe it either but are not bothered enough to protest about it. Not responding doesn't mean that they are winning - but nor are they whipping me up into such a fervour that I have to go out and protest back.

[boxtops]

^^ and where I say above "I don't either care" I mean all those things listed are a blight on our modern society, whichever way you look at it. I don't mean I don't care about them, far from it!

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

Free publicity for Islam, taken from the Anti-British Atheist Gromit's chosen Islamic link he so generously provided.

/// In Islam these problems are irradiated. There are growing numbers who used to celebrate Christmas and indeed every other festival, but at some point in their lives discovered something that completely changed their lives, they became worshippers instead of partiers, they became caring instead of 'couldn't care less', loyal rather than 'sleep around', they became Muslims, submitters to God rather than submitters to their own desires.///

Is he also an Islamic recruiting officer?

Sign up and take your places in a Britain under Sharia law.

[eyethenkyew]

Some muppets on here referred to me earlier as being either some kind of nimby, or apathetic, about these posters, simply because I said that the posters in question apparently haven't reached my neck of the woods.

It's nice to know that total strangers know your own mind better than you do, isn't it? No, I wouldn't give a monkey's if someone plastered one of their posters on our nearest lampost - I'd be more hacked off that some idiot was flyposting rather than what there stoopid poster said. Sticks + stones?

Besides, as long as the laws of the land are not being broken, why should anyone take umbrage about other people's opinions? We are the most tolerant democracy in the world bar none, therefore people in our country are given far more opportunity of expressing their points of view than in many other places throughout the world.

You only have to look at some of the posts on AB if you want to start screeching about bigotry and intolerance - and when has any ABer been put up against a wall and shot for their views? Complete and utter hypocrisy, that's what this is.

And, no, I am not a Muslim.

[jackthehat]

Shrugging our shoulders..etc. is not apathy, AOG.
It is resignation; to the fact that in a country which prides itself on the right of free speech, the Muslims have a right to stick such a poster.
(I should like you to find a relevant link to back up your answer to that, please).

[optics2b]

jake-the-peg, so are you saying this is not an offence???

[KARL]

Unless I am much mistaken, anywhere in Europe this sad little group does not commit an offence by producing and publishing the contents of its poster any more than someone is committing an offence by drawing and publishing a picture purporting to depict the prophet Mohammed. The poster irritates those who disagree with it and the cartoon irritates puritans among Muslims (but many/most Muslims are not seriously upset by it because they are tolerantb enough to ignore it - they would not do it themselves but accept that others are not bound by the same self-restraint). Violent opposition to either act is against the law (freedom of expression).