Hi stoke, no I haven't done anything about it yet. I just like to see what you are betting on and whether you win or not. I am thinking about it seriously. I buy lottery tickets and instant wins on line but never tried betting. I do not win!!! I think I am a born loser so do not throw too much money away. My father was a gambler and he also was a loser so I may have inherited it from him. However he always liked the thrill of betting whether he won or not. I looked at the sites you mentioned but it did not give any indication as far as I could see of how much or how little in my case, you could bet. Remember I am a complete beginner.