The next MP cheat had plead guilty....will the other 2 follow?

[barney15c]

The next MP to be caught Eric issley has changed his plea to guilty after vermently denying any wrong doing (his reasons being he wasnt guilty of defrauding the tax payer of £25k but is of over £14k). Just shows how crooked they are if they knowingly conceal they are guilty of some crime. He's probably decided to take a chance he will get a sentence under 12 mths so he still keeps his MP job in the short term. Watch the other two MP rats chance there pleas to get reduced sentences.
Can someone confirm all these lowly scum were granted legal aid?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12157768

[jno]

he didn't conceal anything, he argued that he was not guilty of fraud over £10,000 and the prosecution now agrees. He's admitted the rest. I'd do the same.

I don't think he was one of the ones who got legal aid (Chaytor was).

[LoftyLottie]

Doesn't changing a plea to guilty lessen the length of a sentence. He has seen what happened to his colleague. I don't think it was expected!!!

[Invictas]

Surely if a sitting MP is found guilty of fraud,he/she cannot be allowed to return(after serving rheir sentence) to sit as MP for their constituency unitl the next election?
I tried to Google this but didn't get anywhere!

I know Jeffrey Archer did,but apparently the Lords are a law unto themselves.(As usual)

[barney15c]

he didn't conceal anything, he argued that he was not guilty of fraud over £10,000 and the prosecution now agrees. He's admitted the rest. I'd do the same.

He is guilty of fraud over £10000 as he's pleaded to fraudently claiming £14+.
He knew he committed fraud of some sort and denied wrongdoing of "all" charges, he was given the opportunity of admitting some charges but chose not to.

I reckon the other 2 mps will now change their pleas after emphatically denying them to get lesser sentences., they are on a hiding to nothing.

[jno]

he's entitled to contest the details, and he did.

Invictas, I think it's the sentence (12 months or more) that determines whether you can sit in Parliament. I agree that all fraudsters should be banned.

[Ankou]

jno, bobby sands and the followinng act:

http://en.wikipedia.o...f_the_People_Act_1981

[New Judge]

If he had admitted misappropriating some but not the entire sum involved he should still have pleaded guilty at an earlier stage. It would have been the facts he disputed, not the charge. A hearing could then have been heard (known as a “Newton” hearing) to establish the facts.

I understand that until today Mr Illsley, formally at least, maintained his innocence of all charges against him. Normally defendants are entitled to a discount of a third off their sentences if they plead guilty at the earliest opportunity and this is reduced as time progresses until it reaches the lowest level of 5% to 10% if a guilty plea is entered “at the door of the court” on trial day.

It will be interesting to see the sentence imposed on Mr Illsley compared to the 18 months imposed on Mr Chaytor.

[jake-the-peg]

I'd be surprised if they were able to claim Legal Aid generally you can't if you've an income over about 30K or have over 8K capital

[jno]

jake, three of them did at one stage (I'm not sure if this remained the case)

http://www.telegraph....ranted-legal-aid.html

NJ, were there significant legal differences in the Illsley and Chaytor cases?

[eyethenkyew]

I seriously hope that this is the mere tip of the iceberg and that many more Honourable bums are twitching in Westminster?

[barney15c]

As chaytor was found guilty is he liable for his legal costs now?

[girly30]

Eric Illsley states that the parliamentary expenses were devised to ‘supplement’ an MP’s salary. To help cover council tax, telephone bills, service charges, maintenance, insurance and repairs. I see!
So what is his many £K salary for?