Law re kids in pubs after 21:00

[packerm]

I notice that many pubs don't allow children after 21:00, even in the beer garden. When challenged my local blames the licencing law. I've looked at the licensing act 2003 and can't see anything in there about kids not being allowed in pubs after 21:00. I don't mind the landlord having an objection to kids in his pub but he shouldn't use the licensing laws as an excuse if that isn;t true. Anyone know what the actual law says about this issue.

[zzxxee]

not sure about the law but i dont belive a pub is a place for a kid anyway

[another-view]

What are the kids doing in a pub after 9 anyway? Most of the people down there are there to escape the kids for a few hours. They don't want to see and hear yours. It's a pub not a creche.

[zzxxee]

i totally agree

[puddicat]

Who wants to go a pub and have to suffer kids at this time!!!!!

[Ethel]

He is right

Children are allowed into pubs which have been granted a Children�s Certificate by the courts. Children must be accompanied by an adult when in a pub, and they must leave by 9pm at the latest. However, it is up to the publican whether or not to allow children onto the premises.

http://www.ulsterpubs.com/knowledgebase/defaul t.asp?ID=4&ItemId=10&topicId=

[Rollo]

There is no law governing this. But a landlord has the absolute right to say who can, and who cannot, be on their premises at any given time.

The landlord is trying to push the responsibility for his decision onto something that does not exist.

[Ethel]

The link I provided related to Northern Ireland.

This is England:

Providing they sell soft drinks and food, pubs can now apply for a children's certificate allowing children under 14, accompanied by an adult, into a bar. The children, however, have to leave by 9pm.

http://www.northants.police.uk/default.asp?act ion=article&ID=3248

[puddicat]

i am a ex landlady, and hated the way people thought they had a right to stay,it was at my discretion!!!

[another-view]

Good for you puddicat. I don't know about others but if I see a pub full of kids, I don't stay long.

[abstract]

come on kids in a pub? what kind of parents are we? now up the chimney,working in the docks and down the mines are the best place for them! they're not going to make us any money in the pub now are they! hahaha!

[puddicat]

There are very few just pubs now, most do food also as then its a different kettle of fish,some children can have booze with there meal, cant remember exactly could be 16years, but have to purchase a meal!!!!

[tigwig]

I agree with others the landlord will be saying this because he doesn't want kids in the pub at this time of night. I don't appreciate it myself either, I do sometimes sit in the beer garden with my daughter but only for around an hour and we are gone by 8.30 at the latest.
I went out last night actually (not with my daughter!) and we were all having a laugh and getting quite drunk and there was some swearing going on and we got a few dirty looks from the parents who were sat on the next table with their kids for doing so. Now this was about 10.30-11.00 and although we were in a busy city centre restaurant not a pub but it is very well known for being very lively and full of pre clubbers so I just thought if I want to swear I will. The kids should be in bed at that time not out with parents who are more concerned with getting drunk. Do that without them like me!

[terambulan]

Pubs are no place for children......blame yourself if they enjoy alcohol and become alcoholics.....it will be ur burden!

[rachmc]

She/He was only asking a question....not about their parental skills but just the law!!!

[blyth54]

well the law also states that drnking while in charge of a minor is and offence to which the parent or guardian can be arrested and the child placed into a safe place i.e witha responsible person this was highlighted by a case in one of the natioal newspapers last week so be ware if you drink whilst in charge of a minor you risk the chance of being arrested and the child taken into care and i agre pubs clubs etc are no place for kids

[IAmNotAmused]

Must confess, I had a similar problem, I'm a girl of 17, teetotal even at home. I went to the pub with some friends (some were 18 and had ID, the 17 year olds did not have ID but were ordering cokes or lemonade). First of all, I'd like you to define "child" because as far as I am aware, if you're over 16, you're allowed in as long as you are with an "adult" and you only drink soft drinks. The legal definition of "adult" is a person over the age of 18. So, none of us were technically in violation of any known law. The pub landlord instantly kicked us out (and was rather rude to us in the process). My friends and I are not the sort to cause trouble, we were dressed well and we were quiet when we came in. This happened in two pubs. None of us are known troublemakers and we are struggling to work out why, despite being locals since birth, we are being made to feel unwelcome. They missed out on a lot of business because they kicked us out.