E-mails

[gbarbara614]

I keep getting e-mail from a lawyer stating that I have inheritage money, they have not asked for any money, They are in London. I will not send any money even if they asked me to. I am attacking the last e-mail that they send me.

FROM THE DESK OF: Kenneth Tyler
Kenneth Tyler & Associates

To: Barbara Graham
How are you? I have very good news from the probate office, our application which was placed on the notice board did not record any query. The probate order has been issued and I have attached the scanned copy to this email for your perusal. Under the present circumstances, you are now well placed to claim the bequeathed funds successfully.

The last few weeks have been very stress-full, because I had no way of determining the outcome. At present, your contact details (name, address, and a copy of the probate order) are in your claims file which has now been submitted to the bank and what that means is that the holding bank will be contacting you directly any moment to commence the funds release process with you. I will advise that you inform me as soon as you hear from the bank.

Like I promised earlier, I will send you a copy of the will of the deceased for your perusal and safe keeping and I will prefer faxing the copy to you due to its delicacy.

Enjoy the rest part of your day and happy holidays


Best regards,
Kenneth Tyler Esq.
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
FROM THE DESK OF: Kenneth Tyler
Kenneth Tyler & Associates

[Buenchico]

It's a scam.

My reasons for that assertion are given here:
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Law/Criminal/Qu estion484974.html

Chris

[Lily_b]

Had a quick look on the law society website, no listing of a Kenneth Tyler.

The phone and fax number look like a mobile and possibly are both premium rate numbers. Hopefully one of the regulars will be able to help you more but I think you are right to be cautious.

[Peter Pedant]

definite scam

I keep getting - greetings ! edward amblubea - previous finance minister of Equitorial Guinea,
who yeah, has secreted twenty mill - you know the way they do

It is important NOT to answer these.

I note no addresses and I think the no's are mobile.


as for a will being.....delicate - oh pleez !

[fagidill]

Firstly , A Legitimate Company Would "ALWAY'S" Contact
You By Mail, With Their Full Address On Headed Paper.
For Your Safety, If I Were You I Would Ignore Their E Mail's

[bednobs]

who in britain says happy holidays?
why is fax more secure than post?

[Peter Pedant]

yeah I wonderd about the phone no's being premiium rate. and so you wait and wait

and then think oh I will ring Ken !

and get a whacking great bill a few weeks later

[Ethel]

No respectable company would contact you by email in this way.

[Ice.Maiden]

The letter isn't professional enough to be genuine, and I've never heard of anyone being contacted in this manner.

[fredpuli47]

A solicitor who gets probate does so on behalf of the executors and the estate. It is the executors' duty to distribute the funds to the beneficiaries. They can't withold money due to beneficiaries.

Any will, even a genuine one, is of no use and no worth until it has been admitted to probate.That means that tax due on the estate has been paid, all accounts prepared, the will proved valid and the Court has issued a grant of probate .

These fraudsters have cunningly said that they'll send you a copy of the will. That document will be false.It will show you to be a beneficiary. (These people have 'wills' for all occasions: they'll have one ready typed for every victim !) The victim , seduced by this, will then give their bank particulars.That'll be the last they hear from the fraudsters !

If this were genuine these people would have the grant of probate, giving particulars of the deceased etc. That would have an official stamp and would be accompanied by the will. It and the will are public documents which anyone can see and you could then check. The fraudsters, obviously, won't have one of those ! The executors (or the solicitors on their behalf) having the grant of probate would only write to establish your address and, if necessary, that you are the same as the person named as a beneficiary in the will. Then they'd send you a cheque.They would not normally need your bank particulars in any case.

[Ethel]

fredpuli - excellent answer except knowledge of bank details gives nothing but the ability to pay money in. No good to a fraudster.

Have a look at your cheque - that has all your bank details plus a signature.

I have my bank details on my eBay site so that I can accept payment by direct transfer. It is perfectly safe.

[fredpuli47]

Ethel, now you know why I failed as a fraudster ! My thinking was that someone seeking to set up an i.d fraud would like details of that sort. They must ask for more, which they'd get from the trusting victim, or be somehow enabled to discover more .

Ah well, back to the day job: I obviously have a lot to learn !

[Ethel]

Carrying on re bank details, it does puzzle me that eBay sellers treat me like a thieving fraudster when I offer to pay by direct bank transfer rather than PayPal.

It saves them PayPal fees, is much quicker, and there can be no chargebacks. Once the money is in the account it is the sellers. It is by far the safest way for a seller to operate his eBay account.

[Pippa68]

I agree Ethel.

Do they think you can rob their bank account?

[fredpuli47]

According to the press, Jeremy Clarkson was complaining about excessive fusses over security, saying that his bank details were on his cheque book and then publishing them. Result? Somebody set up a standing order on it for �500 to a charity and �500 was paid out ! Apparently not every charity requires a signature or anything more than the basic info.!
So much for your bank cheque book details only being of use to someone paying in!

[Ethel]

That article re Clarkson is a load of rubbish. I have read it - and the banks would certainly do something if an account was being accessed in the way he says.

The police would be very interested to.

[leo8/80]

explain that youb are a police officer or that you have contacted your lawyer. see if they back off. needless to say, its a scam. im surprised they havent asked for your bank details, and asked u for some initial handling fee, which you will never get back...
once they have your bank details, and u send them handling fees, its maybe too late

[clairegg]

had these myself first thing how did they get your e-mail adderss, second thing, best place for this e-mail is in the recycle bin.

[kethnoxe]

Mark them as spam and blocked. They're obviously a scam.

[oracle39]

Funny enough I had one of these scam lawyers contact me by sending me a message on Facebook of all places. I can hear you all laughing now. The plonker addressed me as Dear then my sirname, they clearly had no uderstanding of English. I never answered it just reported it to the administrators. I had previously had a different one sent to my email about 10 years ago and I reported that to the administrators too. My advice is Do ignore the sender, but please report them otherwise we will never get them caught!