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Starbuck, Mam, I am sorry but that upstart moonie was trying to step in whilst I was chatting up Noraq, a fine upstanding (and hopefully outsanding), Irish redhead. He would not leave it alone so I had to get tough. I apolgise if this may have upset you but I was brought up to fight for what you can get and step on others if you have to., and besides that he's got ttfn for company and when Noraq told him to sling his hook, he tried it on with Rowan!!! Sorry, mam, will try harder.