Work for Brits first

[tamborine]

If Ian Duncan Smith wants to impliment work for Brits shouldn't he stop the admin jobs sent out to foreign lands ?

[didoatwork]

Jake the Peg, I resemble that remark!

[Bobbisox]

and they talk in a foreign language too

[tamborine]

We have young Brit Asians & Jamaicans out of work, who could take up these admin jobs. e.g. HSBC is cutting 750 jobs in UK as they move their admin to the sub-continent. (SkyNews yesterday).

[jake-the-peg]

Not only that but my council is shamefully employing people from outside of the County!

Seriously isn't this all rather silly?

Employers employ people who are best suited for the jobs

To get a competive advantage they outsource work off-shore - you can't legislate against that it would be stupid to try.

In order to stay competeive as a nation we have to concentrate on being a high cost, high value workforce.

And that means more and better education.

All those who criticise the idea of getting more and more youngsters through University ought to think about that a bit more.

[ichkeria]

"ichkeria, I worked for a newspaper and they now send all typing to India. No wonder there are so many spelling errors!"

Intriguing. In what format do they send the material for typing: braille? large wads of handwritten notes?

[Ankou]

noone is owed a living. hsbc is a business and cost efficiency is good business. the cost of living in britain is high, wages are high, and the minimum wage in the uk reflects a very healthy wage in the subcontinents.

add to that the additional costs and restrictions of operating a business premises here which are no doubt cheaper there too, and you soon realise that it makes proper business sense to move operations abroad.

[tamborine]

Costs of businesses in UK reflect income.

HSBC are an offshore bank & opened in UK for Brit investors etc. Brits cant open an HSBC account in Hong Kong unless they live there.

[Ankou]

eh ? i was referring to your 'moving 750 jobs abroad' comment.

[Quizmonster]

Given the Tory hoo-ha when Gordon Brown used the phrase, "British jobs for British workers", isn't this latest Iain Duncan Smith mantra rather hypocritical? It's certainly illegal in so far as EU workers are concerned.

[emmie]

That will be the day

[New Judge]

A perfectly reasonable suggestion by Jake. If only we were meant to take it seriously.

[grffindoor2011]

I had a heated discussion about this a few weeks ago. A couple of guys I know only hire foreign workers because as they both stated to me, they can pay the minimum wage and they sometimes work for nothing too.

Ageism is also rife, a woman I know who runs a recruitment agency has a 'policy' not to put anyone forward for a job that is over the age of 45.

I'm afraid that as us brits get older it will only get harder.

[New Judge]

Better secondary education, yes Jake. But not more University education.

Nowhere near 50% of jobs in the UK require degree level education. To aim to educate 50% of the population to that level is a scandalous waste of money. It is also a betrayal of those so educated as it raises false expectations among them.

Of course there is always the possibility that secondary education is so inadequate that only another three years will bring young people up to a decent level. But I'm only guessing.

[sandyRoe]

I know lots of people with degrees who do low grade clerical work in the NI Civil Service.
I remember seeing an advert years ago which said that the educational requirement for Clerical Assistant grade was two GCSE's. Now it's probably a 2:2

[New Judge]

That's because a Desmond is probably about the same as 2 decent GCSEs were a few years back, Sandy.

[emmie]

grffindor The company that discriminates in that way should be shamed, write to which ever governing body, union whatever, its a reason so many good people are left on the scrap heap, i have seen it in action, sat in on interviews, though not part of the panel, usually the candidate had already been chosen, before the interview, on basis of CV, and varying factors, like age, and gender.

[Brenden]

And quotas em.