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EDL founder Stephen Lennon guilty over football brawl
// The founder of the English Defence League has been convicted of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans.
Stephen Lennon, 28, led Luton Town supporters and chanted "EDL till I die"" as they clashed with Newport County fans in Luton, a court heard.
He was charged with using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour during the clash on 24 August last year.
He denied the charges but was convicted after a trial on Monday at Luton and South Bedfordshire Magistrates' Court. //
Makes you proud to be English, eh?
Stephen Lennon, 28, led Luton Town supporters and chanted "EDL till I die"" as they clashed with Newport County fans in Luton, a court heard.
He was charged with using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour during the clash on 24 August last year.
He denied the charges but was convicted after a trial on Monday at Luton and South Bedfordshire Magistrates' Court. //
Makes you proud to be English, eh?
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Political allegence is a choice. You decide what you are after learning about different parties views and whether tney match your own take on things.
Sexual orientation is different. You are born hetrosexual or homosexual, and their is little choice or anything you can do to change it.
A left wing fascist movent is an oxymoron.
Political allegence is a choice. You decide what you are after learning about different parties views and whether tney match your own take on things.
Sexual orientation is different. You are born hetrosexual or homosexual, and their is little choice or anything you can do to change it.
A left wing fascist movent is an oxymoron.
You are spot on Gromit take this person
http://www.pinknews.c...icles/2005-9335.html/
Do you not think he is a bit mixed up in his head, praise for the nazi's yet look at what they did to any gay person they found
http://www.pinknews.c...icles/2005-9335.html/
Do you not think he is a bit mixed up in his head, praise for the nazi's yet look at what they did to any gay person they found
// Do you not think he is a bit mixed up in his head //
No, as I said, political leanings and sexual leanings are driven by entirely different things. One is acquired, and the other is learnt.
Don't you think the Norway killer looks gay? He registers a hit on my gaydar.
http://sayou.files.wo...7/norway-killer-2.jpg
No, as I said, political leanings and sexual leanings are driven by entirely different things. One is acquired, and the other is learnt.
Don't you think the Norway killer looks gay? He registers a hit on my gaydar.
http://sayou.files.wo...7/norway-killer-2.jpg
If I didn't know what the Norway killer had done (sorry I can never remember his name), I'd say he looked beautiful...
"I have always found the righties to not be very tolerant with gay people but if you you have right wing gay friends then i may be wrong."
To be fair, this depends on what particular kind of right-winger you are. Like 'left-wing', 'right-wing' is quite a vast umbrella term comprising lots of different kinds of ideologies. There's plenty of libertarians, for instance, in the Tory party, who obviously have no problem with homosexuality. On the other hand you also have social conservatives (some of whom you can find on AB) who do.
"I have always found the righties to not be very tolerant with gay people but if you you have right wing gay friends then i may be wrong."
To be fair, this depends on what particular kind of right-winger you are. Like 'left-wing', 'right-wing' is quite a vast umbrella term comprising lots of different kinds of ideologies. There's plenty of libertarians, for instance, in the Tory party, who obviously have no problem with homosexuality. On the other hand you also have social conservatives (some of whom you can find on AB) who do.
*He was probably spotted by some leftie cop who does not like the peaceful EDL.
I say peaceful because of the link you posted earlier Gromit*
the so called peaceful EDL are few and far between if any..... the fb groups/pages are full of hate filled conversations by supporters and members of the EDL .... if they were 'peacefully protesting' as their pages/groups claim surely they would remove these remarks...but they dont.... i havent got links as theres so many of them, all anyone have to do is go to fb and see for themselves. Or look here .... of course this is only one persons view... but believe me there are plenty of others exactly the same all over the internet....
WARNING DO NOT CLICK THE LINK IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED OR UPSET.... this mans crazy ramblings are vicious, hate filled and the language is atrocious..... scroll down past the fb screenshots to the massive essay that is italisized and starts ... 1. A genie granted me 3 wishes....
http://exposingon.tum...684/proscribe-the-edl
I say peaceful because of the link you posted earlier Gromit*
the so called peaceful EDL are few and far between if any..... the fb groups/pages are full of hate filled conversations by supporters and members of the EDL .... if they were 'peacefully protesting' as their pages/groups claim surely they would remove these remarks...but they dont.... i havent got links as theres so many of them, all anyone have to do is go to fb and see for themselves. Or look here .... of course this is only one persons view... but believe me there are plenty of others exactly the same all over the internet....
WARNING DO NOT CLICK THE LINK IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED OR UPSET.... this mans crazy ramblings are vicious, hate filled and the language is atrocious..... scroll down past the fb screenshots to the massive essay that is italisized and starts ... 1. A genie granted me 3 wishes....
http://exposingon.tum...684/proscribe-the-edl
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// I say peaceful because of the link you posted earlier Gromit //
If you mean this reference in the link, I don't think it means what you think it means...
// he dismissed the EDL as “naive fools” for refusing to sanction violence. //
It does not mean the EDL are peaceful and non-violent, it just means they will not openly encourage it. Rather like Roman Catholic Priests refusing to sanction child molestation, but actively doing it themselves.
// I say peaceful because of the link you posted earlier Gromit //
If you mean this reference in the link, I don't think it means what you think it means...
// he dismissed the EDL as “naive fools” for refusing to sanction violence. //
It does not mean the EDL are peaceful and non-violent, it just means they will not openly encourage it. Rather like Roman Catholic Priests refusing to sanction child molestation, but actively doing it themselves.
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I'd be interested to see what percentage of EDL members are football hooligans, from my experience, it'd be pretty high!
I suppose the rationale behind it all is very similar, considering yourself active defenders of "your clan" and you want to preserve the value to which you so strongly associate yourself... that teamed with a tendency for fighting, a few others to look hard in front of, and a few stella's and off it goes!
I suppose the rationale behind it all is very similar, considering yourself active defenders of "your clan" and you want to preserve the value to which you so strongly associate yourself... that teamed with a tendency for fighting, a few others to look hard in front of, and a few stella's and off it goes!
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