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Chinadoll, thanks for your reply. I know its nothing I can resolve, and I know it is down to my daughter to sort out. But it doesn't stop me wondering what the solution could be, if there is one. Also I do kind of worry about the ex, because I (and my family) have known him since he was 5 years old and he and my kids have grown up together. He and my daughter,are still friends because of the children, and he still pops into my house occassionally, so of course the situation bothers me. I give my advice IF and WHEN its is asked for.