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Dutch Clergy drop God and Heaven.
Many Dutch clerics are agnostic or even atheist .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/...world-europe-14417362
Is this a dose of common sense in our century or should we continue to believe in the old myths .
Some pedantic ABers may say this should be in Religion but I feel it is Newsworthy as it could have a major political influence in the world not just in Holland.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/...world-europe-14417362
Is this a dose of common sense in our century or should we continue to believe in the old myths .
Some pedantic ABers may say this should be in Religion but I feel it is Newsworthy as it could have a major political influence in the world not just in Holland.
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"I wonder how many killers are atheists and maybe find killing easier than it might otherwise be"
That's a rather facetious link, to be honest. History indicates that the faithful can be no less scrupulous, and the reason for that is actually that it has little to do with faith or lack thereof at all.There's a wealth of evidence suggesting that people (yes 'ordinary' people) can possibly be convinced to do or believe terrible things - atheists are no more susceptible than believers. But the other extreme exists too - they can also be persuaded to do remarkably good things: the whole concept of altruism (like genocide or hatred) is one that comes from humans.
That's a rather facetious link, to be honest. History indicates that the faithful can be no less scrupulous, and the reason for that is actually that it has little to do with faith or lack thereof at all.There's a wealth of evidence suggesting that people (yes 'ordinary' people) can possibly be convinced to do or believe terrible things - atheists are no more susceptible than believers. But the other extreme exists too - they can also be persuaded to do remarkably good things: the whole concept of altruism (like genocide or hatred) is one that comes from humans.
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I believe that more people have been killed in the name of one religion or another, they may dress it up, or use their faith as an excuse, but when you really look into it, so much hatred over the thousands of years, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Christian, and so forth, there is the other side of the coin, many do good in the name of their particular faith, but i am afraid all i see is strife, conflict and war, and even those faiths who proclaim that it is peaceful, have been hijacked by extremists, and they can't even agree, Sunni, shi'ite case in point.
To be fair I'm not completely sure religion is necessarily more predisposed towards violence or abuse than modern secular ideologies are. It does likely have a higher 'body count' but that's largely because it's been around longer. Faith/lack of faith doesn't seem to have much impact in the matter compared to other psychological factors common to all humans.
I actually believe Atheist are far less likely to kill, we have a better moral purpose in life, that is why we are mostly appalled at seeing a ruthless murderous god being so highly revered.
Look around the world, the countries which thrive on religion , middle-east, USA etc are usually at war with someone and the the countries that have very little religion are the most peaceable countries like the Scandinavian countries.
Look around the world, the countries which thrive on religion , middle-east, USA etc are usually at war with someone and the the countries that have very little religion are the most peaceable countries like the Scandinavian countries.
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>>I actually believe Atheist are far less likely to kill, we have a better moral purpose in life<<
Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong produced the kind of mass slaughter that no Inquisitor could possibly match. Collectively these atheist tyrants murdered more than 100 million people.”
>>I actually believe Atheist are far less likely to kill, we have a better moral purpose in life<<
Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong produced the kind of mass slaughter that no Inquisitor could possibly match. Collectively these atheist tyrants murdered more than 100 million people.”
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