Is it just me thats dosent understand the squaters rights?

[trt]

http://www.dailymail....tters-leave-home.html

If you force a door or window to enter a property, surely that's breaking and entering, so why are these people not arrested for breaking the law?

[Answerprancer]

LOL - exactly what I thought Starbucks, the bloke looks a bit like "Peter O'Hanrahahanrahan" from The Day Today.
Actually, the first thing I thought about the picture at the bottom was that it isn't trashed at all - fixtures fittings and decor all look fine - there's just a lot of untidy stuff lying around.

[craft1948]

I got burgled once and when the police arrived they said "They've made a bit of a mess in here"............the boyfriend said "Actually I think they've tidied up" :-(

[starone]

Perhaps it was staged AP - I wouldn't put it past them.

[Answerprancer]

LOL yes - I wonder what they shoved up the woman's dress to make her look pregnant, a selection of AOG's letters to the editor maybe ? ;-)

[starone]

She looked as if she was expecting twins or even triplets didn't she. Must have been a lot of letters AP! Honestly - the things people do for a bit of publicity. Personally I would have been hiding away, looking like that.

[snags]

In both those pictures it looks like he's operating her from behind... 'gottle o' geer'...

[starone]

Oops, just realised it is 1.40 and I had better go and get some sleep before it is time to get up. G'night AP and craft.

[craft1948]

Night Star x

[Answerprancer]

Nighty nighty :-)

[jno]

joko, there's twoccing. As far as I know they don't charge you with theft because they can't prove you meant to keep the car, you might just be joyriding. But you'll be done for taking without consent.

[Answerprancer]

Why do we have "twoccing" but the US of A has (dun dun duuuuunnnn...) "G-R-A-N-D T-H-E-F-T A-U-T-O" !? (I might post this as a main topic if no responses).

[emmie]

i did ask this yesterday, and what i don't get is some peoples lack of sympathy for want of a better for for those people who's homes get trashed.

http://www.theanswerb.../Question1054794.html

[emmie]

its early, "for want of a better word."

[exdc]

Here is a bit of the law
Violence to Enter Premises (Squatting): Charging Practice

The Criminal Law Act 1977 sets out offences relating to entering property without lawful authority and remaining there. Section 6 makes it an offence to use or threaten violence to secure entry into premises knowing that there is someone present who is opposed to the entry which the violence is intended to secure. Section 7 makes it an offence for any person on premises as a trespasser to fail to leave those premises on being asked to do so by, or on behalf of, a displaced residential occupier or an individual who is a protected intending occupier, Section 74 CJPOA sets out supplementary provisions in relation to protected intending occupiers.

The Protection from Eviction Act 1977 Archbold 29-61 provides protection against unlawful eviction and harassment. Where the person occupying the premises is a residential occupier as defined by Section 1(1) of the Act, then regardless of the rights or interest of the person seeking to regain possession, it is an offence to deprive the former of possession unlawfully or to harass him or her.

Where there is evidence of unlawful eviction or sustained harassment, proceedings will inevitably be required. In R v Brennan and Brennan [1979] Crim LR 603 the Court said that the use of threats and force to evict tenants was a particularly bad form of the offence and sentences of imprisonment will invariably be imposed.

[Old_Geezer]

It is understandable in the context of those in authority seemingly finding it difficult to do the right thing. A not uncommon event it would seem.

Clearly squatters have no rights to grab someone else's property and use it but apparently the law says it can't do anything until the owner goes through whatever process has been defined to get back what was theirs in the first place. One wonders then if you can't go sit in someone's car and use it, and the police & owner can't do anything until weeks of messing about by the owner has occurred.

To even acknowledge the phrase "squatters rights" is offensive. It implies they have additional rights compared to those who do not squat. Clearly this can not be so. Except, maybe, the right not to squat in the first place, and if they fail to resist the temptation, the right to put everything back as they found it, apologise, and get out as soon as possible.

It is all yet another example of how those who are supposed to be in charge get it wrong.

[sandyRoe]

Squatters often claim that they didn't actually break in. They'd say they found the door open, or something equally unlikely.
If the police arranged with the owner of the property to be there when the squatters were arrested on suspicion of breaking and entry, and taken to the police station for questioning, occupying lived-in homes would soon stop.
The police should always charge the squatters with theft if any of the owners property is missing.
If someone can get a prison sentence for taking a bottle of water from a riot damaged shop people who squat and steal should have a taste of porridge.

[joko]

twoccing just means Taking With Out Consent

[jno]

just so, joko, it means they only have to prove someone took something, not that they meant to keep it, which I think they'd have to prove if the charge was theft.

[Answerprancer]

Ok then, here's a potential biggie:
what's the difference between a "theft" and a "TWOC" ?