craft1948/Dotty,or any other Genealogy Experts

[redman41]

Friends have asked for help in tracing their Great Great Grandfather as they have hit a brick wall in their efforts so far.
The person is
John Owen
Born in LLanallgo, Anglesey in 1877
Partner was
Eleanor ( nee Williams )
They had 3 Children
According to 1901 Census John Owen served aboard Paddle Steamer 'St Elvies' which was owned by Liverpool and North Wales Steamship Comany.
He was lost at Sea in WW1, Ship and the capacity in which he was emloyed is unknown although his name appears on a War Memorial in Moelfre, Anglesey without any details.
Any help would be appreciated.

[craft1948]

Will have a firkle, but what do you want to know about him?

[craft1948]

Do you know his exact date of birth?

[redman41]

Hi craft, thanks for your time
What they wanted to know was the name of the ship he was on at the time of sinking as no one has any idea at all about it. It may have been torpedoed, not sure really.
His partner re-married a while afterwards and married someone of the same name who has ben traced

[craft1948]

Well here's the ship

http://website.lineon...~tom_lee/stelvies.htm

[redman41]

Thanks craft, they actually have that Photograph which I have seen myself.
They do not know whether he joined the Royal Navy or sailed Merchant Ships during WW1, so have no idea which ship got sunk. It was not the 'St.Elvies'

[craft1948]

Well he's not on here..............

http://www.naval-hist...KCasAlpha1914-18O.htm

[redman41]

Thanks craft for that list
Just noticed this
OWEN, John, Leading Stoker, 307432 (Po), Queen Mary, 31 May 1916, Jutland, ship lost
It may be him craft, not sure myself

[craft1948]

Sorry redman have just found this on the National Maritime Museum site.......

Crews and gallantry awards
No registers of service exists for the crew of merchant ships for the period of the First World War. But there are records of the issue of seamen’s identity cards from 1918–1921 on microfiche, in series BT 350 at The National Archives; the originals are held by the Southampton Archives Service.

[redman41]

There is also this one
OWEN, John, Seaman, RNR, C 1672, Goliath, 13 May 1915, ship lost

[craft1948]

No that's not the right John Owen redman.............he was from Mold and his wife was called Margaret May

[craft1948]

The one on the Queen Mary was born in 1885 in Bursham, Staffordshire

[redman41]

Thanks for all this info craft, you have been very helpful and I will pass on details about Southampton Archives Service to the Family and tell them about Naval-History.net as it may help them elminate the 2 John Owen which are on there.
Thanks for your time craft, much apreciated

[craft1948]

I thought I had eliminated them :-(

[redman41]

The family have not been able to access these sites which you have come across, and I will explain to them about what you have unearthed.
Thanks

[craft1948]

:-)