Daft Programme About Alcoholics

[joggerjayne]

Oh, purleeeze.

There's this daft programme on the beeb suggesting that people drink too much.

It's almost the weekend. What do they expect!

[NOX]

I have to say that when I came to London with my sons many years ago now and was taken in by the lady who later became my wife I was on drink and drugs and failing very very fast. The thing was though that I knew I needed help with drugs, but drinking too much was just completely normal where I was from. Every man I knew went out and got lashed, drank at home etc and I really didn't see that as a problem at the time. It was only after I had a really good look at myself as part of the process of coming off drugs that I realised that the alcohol dependency was every bit as bad. Whilst it wasn't really a huge deal to stop drinking actually and I can now either drink or not because my mind set is healthy, at the time, everyone who came around to my wife's place was drinking more than I was, and they were all affluent creatives. since then a fair few have actually died of their addiction, but ask them at the time and they would have just considered themselves to be social or relaxation drinkers. There is a lot of kidding ourselves about our addictions, mine was obvious because I was a wreck, if you function well, you could kid yourself for years until it's way too late.

[jake-the-peg]

I was exactly one of those functioning alcoholics

I realised it when I couldn't recall a day without alcohol in 3 years

4-5 bottles of wine a week will start to cause you damage - I was way over that at the end

This graph is scary

http://www.britishliv...ut-liver-disease.aspx

It shows the explosion of liver cases in the last 40 years and liver disease now kills more people than road deaths and diabetes combined.

I know someone in their 20s where I work who nearly died of it last year


I'm not upset by JJs post

I do think it's like all these people who used to say "I smoked 40 a day for 40 years and it never did me any harm"

Many of whom then collapsed in their 60s with heart attacks

[starone]

Nox and other recovering alcoholics - you are so brave and courageous to face up to your illness and defeat it. I admire you very much.

[EDDIE51]

Intresting point rowanwitch , but what causes the lowering of the age?
Is it an earlier starting age , heavier drinking or a combination of the 2 ?