Puppy birth record

[Goofy]

My bitch is due to have puppies in 3 weeks.
All the birth record forms I have seen have weight, time of birth etc. - all very logical. But they also have 'position'. What does this refer to please?

[jules77]

Oh, I forgot to say to Goofy, good luck with your litter. Have you got the book 'The Book of the Bitch' to hand, it is the breeders bible, and an excellent read.

[chaptazbru]

How many more times do I have to spell it out! You carry on breeding you carry on adding to the dog problem, i.e. too many dogs, not enough homes. A true dog lover would take on any dog to help the problem, waiting for one particular breed is cruel and selfish when so many need homes. Maybe you lot who don't think I'm right should be present when young, healthy dogs are being put down because they are not the right type of dog!! Again, I stand by what I said. I will not be drawn further. Breeders add to the problem, end off !!!!!

[chaptazbru]

And wolf unscrupulous breeders and irresponsible owners are 'in the minority'. Do you live in a dfferent world to me ??!! What rot !

[jules77]

Do you think if responsible breeders stopped breeding purebred puppies and everyone had a puppy from the local dogs home it would solve the situation? I think not.

Some people, not all, go to the local dogs home to get a cheap puppy/dog, the dog comes with health and insecurity problems, starts costing them lots of money, which they cant afford, and the dogs go back to face an insecure future.

Its the general public that need re educating on where they get their puppies from. Buy from a 'responsible' breeder, who carries out appropriate health testing for the breed, and ensures potential buyers know how to care for the breed. They will also take the puppy back should the owners circumstances change. The first step may be to put a stop to websites like epupz where BYB's can advertise their designer puppies and 'mistakes'. If they dont have an outlet to sell, they wouldnt breed.

[Goofy]

Just to say that both dam and sire have had the suggested health tests.

[kita1]

"A true dog lover would take on any dog to help the problem, waiting for one particular breed is cruel and selfish when so many need homes."


A true dog lover would wait for a dog that suits their home and lifestyle - not take on 'any' dog.

A person that would suit a small lap dog (because they cannot walk very far) would be foolish to take on an adult male Rottie.

Or maybe you think that a rescue Border Collie should be placed into a working town family that are going to leave it shut up in the house for 9 hours a day on its own, because after all they are 'true dog lovers'?

[Goofy]

Har hear Kita!

[wolf63]

woof in agreement Kia.

My second dog was a rescue dog, 5 years old and had been handed in to the dog shelter as the previous owner couldn't cope with him.

He was perfect for me - no kids and living alone. With anybody who had kids or grand-kids, cats or anything he would have been dangerous. He was 14 when he died and I miss him loads.

[lankeela]

Not all owners (and not all rescues) are totally honest about why dogs need to be rehomed. Some should never be rehomed as they are unpredictable and can be dangerous in the wrong hands. Most however should never have been sold to the people who bought them and this is where most of the problems lie, unscrupulous breeders selling unsuitable dogs to gullible, unsuitable or just plain stupid people. If dogs were rehomed to suitable homes in the first place there would be much fewer in rescues.

[lankeela]

Not even gonna go there... jules you can take this one!

[jules77]

Well thanks, I started to type a response earlier, and thought I would leave it to you LOL.

Someone has probably been listening to the PDE people again, without visiting Crufts and seeing the dogs for themselves.

[ttfn]

I have owned many dogs who, with one exception, were rescues. I even agreed to take one unseen - she really was due to be put down, but I had her for a good few years and her blindness cause us no problems.

My exception was a Newfoundland - chosen at 2 wks old and collected at 8 wks. Bred by a reputable breeder whom I had researched carefully. This dog was (and always will be) the 'special one', not because of his magnificent show standard but for his wonderful temperament - the like of which I never seen before or since. I have loved and cared for all my pets. With no breeding programme I would have been denied this amazing companion to whom I gave the best life I could.

Goofy - I do hope all goes well with your bitch and her litter. Look forward to reading more about them :)