Was this brutal murder also not a racist attack?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....nny-OShea-murder.html

Since the brutal murder in December 2011 of white youth Danny OShea by a savage mob of black youths, no convictions have yet taken place, although according to the report above and the Met Police report below there have been many arrests.

http://content.met.po...cope_id=1257246764237

/// Police investigated the killing say they have been met with a wall of silence from the local community. ///

What has happened to all these suspects? It would seem that there is a 'wall of silence' regarding this case full stop.

[FredPuli43]

Why is it a racist attack? The simple fact that the victim is white and the assailants are black not doesn't make it racist, does it? What added factor do you see ? Do you know the motive for the killing? What evidence is there that it was only that he was a white man and this gang was out to kill a white man, without anything more? Or do you think that racism is so rampant that no white man is safe from being killed because of the colour of his skin , therefore this must be motivated by that?

All you know is that a number of black men chased and killed a white man. Now that may be for a number of reasons; he might be suspected of being an informer, he might belong to a rival gang, he might be a drug dealer on their turf... and so on. One thing is certain: anyone informing on the killers, would be unwise, just as anyone would be if he or she informed on a Mafia gang or any other which is capable of murder or severe violence. And those who really know are the killers themselves.

[sp1814]

I know a bit about this case. It was a gang-related attack and it was based on. Actually - I need to be careful here.

Suffice to say - think of the word 'gangs' rather than 'gang'.

You know when you see a story about a gang member who is murdered by a rival gang?

Well...

[FredPuli43]

See, aog? That's 'the word on the street'.

[sp1814]

AOG

You remember that story you comments on a couple of weeks ago - the chap who decided to send poison pen letters to his ex-wife because she'd taken up with an African fella and he said that she'd broken the code of the village etc?

Well, remember who you agreed that his skin colour may have been irrelevent and that had he been white, he would've been attacked for some other reason (being the wrong class, being 'new money' etc)...

Well, is it not possible to apply the same principles here? Perhaps the attacks had nothing to do with colour and that even if he were black, he still would've been attacked?

[baza]

two points to ponder, IF he was in a rival gang then surely we would be reading of a tit for tat bundle, and, IF it was drug related then why no arrests for drug dealing. Six months does seem a long time.

[sp1814]

Also - you'd have thought that there would be a considerable amount of DNA evidence available at the scene.

I dunno. Don't want to second guess the police on this - especially from a single report in the papers. The may be a whole shedload of stuff we don't know, so perhaps it's best not to jump to any conclusions.

Actually AOG brings up  good point...has there been any headway in the the case of that Indian student (Anuj Bivde) who was shot in the head in Salford?

Actually now, that we're talking of these sorts of attacks - whatever happened with that story of the black lad who ended up with an axe in his head in Liverpool a couple of years back. I don't recall that one being resolved either, however, I'm almost certain that police said that that wasn't a racist attack either...does anyone know?

[anotheoldgit]

I would have thought with two high profile persons among the many that were seized by the police over this crime, we would have heard more about it, but nothing since late March it seems, very strange.

[sp1814]

AOG

Perhaps the police are investigating the crime?

Or do you think that because the victim is white, the police just can't be bothered?